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#36489 07/27/01 12:41 PM
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Many years ago IBM had amongst its internal fora, one labelled nitpickers. I came across it again the other day, but haven't delved deep into its archives (yet). One discussion which raged back and forth was whether "ij" in Dutch was really a "y" with a double dot diacritic or vice versa, and which came first, and whether the printers separated/joined it for convenience and what the diacritic on the "y" should be called.
I can't remember what the answer was now, so I'll just have to delve into the archives.

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Rod,

I just call it an umlauted y and can tell you from experience it's a triphthong so dangerous you don't want to try to pronounce it. I tried once and ended up in the hospital for a week.


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ASp tried once and ended up in the hospital for a week.

Restraining mÿself




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I'm not sure whether a ligature could also be a digraph. Depends whether you think the ligature makes them one letter, I suppose.

Why does the ligature character I used on the computer at work (by copying and pasting from Helen's post) look like an Arabic letter at home?

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Why does the ligature character I used on the computer at work (by copying and pasting from Helen's post) look like an Arabic letter at home?

Probably because you are using different codepages and character sets on the two machines. Most PCs use a Single Byte Character Set which means that at any one time, it can display up to 256 characters (or less because some are reserved for control. Each application has to tell the Operating system (Win98 or whatever) the character Set context, so the OS can use the correct transforms when building the displayed characters. When you cut and paste, the context is often lost. Sometimes that doesn't matter, othertimes it does.

We can take it offline if you want a really technical discussion about SBCS, DBCS, MBCS, Unicode, and the like

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I know, i know! Bingley!

I presume you copied the æ or the Æ. These where created by using the Alt key and code (which must be typed in on the keypad--not the numbers above the letter board) .

To learn which code, produces which charactrer, use the character map in Windows.
---Start--> Run--> (type in charmap) hit run.

the character map window will open. if you select a character, in the lower right hand corner of the character map, you will find the ALT + #### the number will change with each font and each character.

I used ALT + 0230 to create my æ.

The character maps are assigned to fonts-- if your home computer doesn't have the same fonts-- it could have ALT + 0230 assigned to an other font-- and you would get an other character!

If you frequently use special characters, you can assign a short cut to the character map, and have it on your desk top all the time.. Or you can memorize the charactor codes you use frequently -- or make up a cheat sheet of frequently used charactors.. What ever works..

Edit: as AnnaS points out-- the above instructions are for Windows based PC's


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option + "


Edit:
Thank you, Helen.

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Oh, now I get it. I've had it explained to me before, but I always assumed that you used the top row.
How do you make it a capital æ?


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Æ=ALT-0198


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EDIT: hummmmm

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... ahhhh ....


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