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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 #35597 - 07/13/01 11:24 PM   Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel Max Quordlepleen   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 #35598 - 07/14/01 03:34 AM Re: What's your position? Are you Anti Dis?   Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Bingley Carpal Tunnel Bingley   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta Is antidisintermediation any worse than that hoary old favourite of linguaphiles everywhere antidisestablishmentarianism? Bingley Bingley #35599 - 07/14/01 05:29 PM Re: What's your position? Are you Anti Dis?   Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,439 wow Carpal Tunnel wow   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,439 New England, USA warning them that the company would be less likely to do business with those among them who also marketed their goods online. Hmmmm! Verrrry interesting. Now, why is stuff that is on sale at Blankstore.com online is not on sale or even available in the real, local Blank store? #35600 - 07/14/01 08:46 PM Re: What's your position? Are you Anti Dis?   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Jackie Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Max, I had just as hard a time trying to figure out the meaning of antidisintermediation as I always have with antidisestablishmentarianism (hi, Bingley). I have to think, "Ok, mediation I understand. Intermediation is understandable. Disintermediation: oh yeah, against intermediation. Antidisintermediation: way too big of a stretch, but ok, I followed it all." That last one is like Bingley's story of two positives making a negative: "yeah, yeah"; but in this case it's two negatives making a positive. Seems to me it's the equivalent of saying against against intermediaries: ree-dick-i-lous! #35601 - 07/14/01 11:52 PM Re: What's your position? Are you Anti Dis?   Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,814 Alex Williams Pooh-Bah Alex Williams   Pooh-Bah Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,814 Spam Factory The person who invented that ten dollar word* should be slapped in the face with a sock full of wet mud. This ridiculous word reminds me of the business madness depicted in the hilarious film "Office Space." *You can get the word online for $8.95. #35602 - 07/15/01 05:41 PM Re: What's your position? Are you Anti Dis?   Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,094 Jazzoctopus old hand Jazzoctopus   old hand Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,094 Cincinnati & Loveland, Ohio, U... Bingley's story of two positives making a negative: "yeah, yeah"; When I saw this story posted I didn't understand how that makes a negative, but I didn't respond. I still don't understand it. The only double positive that I can think of that makes a negative is the sarcastic "yeah, right". Could you perhaps explain the other example? #35603 - 07/15/01 05:50 PM Re: What's your position? Are you Anti Dis?   **DONOTDELETE** Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered that's exactly it... the two phrases have a similar meaning (depending on inflection, of course; it's not a "Yeah, Yeah!"(as in Hear, Hear!) but rather a scornful High-Low sound, perhaps even accompanied with a dramatic rolling of the eyes (not that i would know about these things)). perhaps "yeah, right", though, is a tad more combactive™. #35604 - 07/15/01 07:08 PM Re: What's your position? Are you Anti Dis?   Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,379 inselpeter Pooh-Bah inselpeter   Pooh-Bah Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,379 New York City <<I still don't understand it." Sure, sure. #35605 - 07/16/01 01:51 AM Re: What's your position? Are you Anti Dis?   Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,636 consuelo Carpal Tunnel consuelo   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,636 Caribbean Yeah, yeah, yeah. (UP, DOWN, DOWN MORE) consuelo #35606 - 07/16/01 09:52 AM Re: What's your position? Are you Anti Dis?   Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,156 Bean old hand Bean   old hand Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,156 What is this? The New Beatles™? She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah... #35607 - 07/16/01 11:42 AM Re: What's your position? Are you Anti Dis?   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Jackie Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky What is this? The New Beatles™? Sign me up, Bean! Grand idea! Maybe we'll replace The Backstreet Boys! I'll be John; you can be Paul. Now we need a George and a Ringo. Hey--in this forum, we can make a white album! #35608 - 07/18/01 01:30 AM Re: What's your position? Are you Anti Dis?   Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,773 Sparteye Pooh-Bah Sparteye   Pooh-Bah Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,773 Hey! *I* wanna be Paul. #35609 - 07/18/01 02:15 AM Re: What's your position? Are you Anti Dis?   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Jackie Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Hey! *I* wanna be Paul. Let's see what Ms. Bean has to say--I'm easy. What should our first song be? Bean, do you have any ideas, either? #35610 - 07/18/01 03:49 AM Re: What's your position? Are you Anti Dis?   **DONOTDELETE** Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered What should our first song be? Lucy in the Sky with Diphthongs? #35611 - 07/18/01 11:09 AM Re: What's your position? Are you Anti Dis?   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Jackie Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Lucy in the Sky with Diphthongs? Ohmigawd! Shrieks of laughter! #35612 - 07/18/01 12:25 PM Rising to the bait , not having read other's posts   Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 antidisintermediation is a term used to describe the preservation of intermediary positions This is, of course, a disingenuous (or would you prefer genuous?) definition, since the description goes on to point out that what it *really means is opposition to the idea that the middleman should be avoided. Leaving unmentioned the fact that this puts the antidisintermediationists in the position of the labor unions that decreed that the fireman was still needed on a railroad train crew even into the age of diesel engines I would only say that to be opposed to someone else's opposition is not the same thing as being for the thing opposed. To take the attitude that they are indistinguishable would be the equivalent of saying that the phrase "not unkind" was identical to the term "kind". #35613 - 07/18/01 12:33 PM Re: Antidisestablishmentarianism   Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 This has become, as Bingley points out a hoary old favourite, but if one bothers to check the situation out of which it sprang one will see that there is a sense to *it, too. #35614 - 07/18/01 12:49 PM Re: Rising to the bait , not having read other's posts   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Jackie Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky to be opposed to someone else's opposition is not the same thing as being for the thing opposed. Definitely. I was using expediency to try and point out the awkwardness of the word. #35615 - 07/18/01 01:08 PM Re: logical vs. emphatic multiple negative   Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Jackie mentions the awkwardness of the word. This just shows the weakness of the logical multiple negative as opposed to the vigor of the emphatic multiple negative. My classic examples being I couldn't fail to disagree with you less to illustrate the former (I have been using that phrase for more than ten years and I *still don't know what it means) and I don't like to have to hurt nobody without they ain't no chance of no gold in it for me the latter, which leaves no doubt in any but the most obstinate curmudgeon's mind as to the meaning. #35616 - 07/18/01 02:29 PM Re: Antidisestablishmentarianism   Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass but then there is pseudoantidisestablishmentarianism, undoubtedly coined by the antifloccinaucinihilipilification forces wanting to get the "honor" (honorificabilitudinitatibus?) back. #35617 - 07/18/01 03:03 PM Re: Antidisestablishmentarianism   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Jackie Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky abilitudinitatibus Er, wouldn't that be abilitudinitatibous? Oh, I am SO GLAD to see you back!<EG> #35618 - 07/18/01 03:27 PM Re: Antidisestablishmentarianism   Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass >Er, wouldn't that be abilitudinitatibous? I don't think that that's the way that WS spelled it. [YCLIU] and we all know that he knew. 8 ) #35619 - 07/18/01 07:57 PM Re: Antidisestablishmentarianism   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Jackie Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Oooh, I can be so-o-o sneaky... Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) (Old) Weekly themes. 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