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#35454 07/13/01 12:21 PM
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Dear WO'N: There are too many "activists" like Timothy McVeigh. I was thinking of the wild-eyed adolescents who know a lot of things that are not so, but with time become quite conservative.


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Oh, Dr. Bill, you had already managed to insult at least half the regulars on this board, but when you imply that there is some sort of commonality among T. McVeigh and activists, you extend a really deadly insult to the ones you missed.

But it's OK. Speaking for myself (I can't speak for the rest of the activists and activist-sympathizers [Act-symps ? to borrow a usage from the people we used to protest against]} I forgive you. Like one of those old activists, I assure you that while I don't agree with what you say, I will maintain to the death your right to say it, however offensive. verb. sap.


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Gee! what an ants' nest I stirred up with this one!

Think I may have to change my name from maverick - I seem to fit into the conventional view *far too easily amongst this gang of libertarians

Keep it up, though, Bill, if that's your honest opinion. That's the very liberty that generations of activists have won for us.

~ and no one has yet mentioned Galileo Galilei, who for me epitomises the start of the time when the power of The Truth became subordinate to the process of reason, marking also a shift in the axis of cultural power from the catholic south to the protestant north of Europe...


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Don't shoot fellas. I'll come down. Partly I wanted to liven things up, and partly I am so disenchanted with so many of the less admirable type of activists I overstated my case.
P.S. TIME for July 16 has a story about The Earth Liberation Front firebombing a research project they disapproved of , and doing $5 million dollars damage. They boast of having done $40 million dollars damage elsewhere.


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Don't worry, Dr. Bill... the gun's not loaded! Just had to tweak the harshness a little bit. And, yeah, I comply with your right to say anything you believe! As well as the right to rebuttal.
Mav really gets some intense threads going, doesn't he?

And so as not to pay the price of having overlooked this important force of activist energy:
And what about those obnoxious Suffragettes? Imagine giving women the vote! Next they'll want to go to work, or something!







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Eppur si muove.


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i HTLU "eppur si muove", so in case any of you folks do as well, you might want to check out this link. wholly unrelated, but i found it a fascinating read.

http://www.webcom.com/zurcher/furedy/eppur16.html


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Dear tautology sensitive caradea: Thanks for the link. Political correctness is not the only problem such organizations have trouble with. There is a considerable problem with the "old guard" stifling new ideas from younger members. Look how long it took for continental drift and plate techtonics to be accepted. And the nasty turf battles such as the hostility to Prof. Edward O. Wilson.


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