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No, Dr. Bill, of course not...but there's some kind of criterion or time-frame when things cast adrift are considered fair game, and from then on there's no claim to ownership except for the salvager. That's why I was hoping someone could get more specific.
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B;ut Wow's lobster traps had identifcation on them That makes a big difference. They are not up for grabs.
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Traps galore in laws!
The traps that are found are generally the result of a sea storm that rips them from the seabed and an incoming tide that deposits them on the beach. An act of Poseidon or whatever Sea god may be ... ???
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Various national laws and international law create a very complicated situation in regard to jettisoned cargo, abandoned ships, salvage, etc. The question of who has a right to claim such things is also complicated by insurance considerations, as an insurer has an interest. One of the things I do know is that no one wants to leave a ship, still afloat, abandoned; if so, the first person to put a cable on board it can claim it as its salvor. Hence there will always be an effort made to get some member of the crew to stay on board an otherwise abandoned craft as long as possible to allow the owners to get their own salvors to it and thus preserve their ownership. But in all cases of cargo, stores, vessels, etc. the law is extremely complex and an ordinary lawyer isn't likely to know much, if anything, about it -- it's the province of a specialist, the admiralty lawyer.
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"common phrase flotsam and jetsam is now used loosely" - loose as a goose
Where's Humpty Dumpty when you need him?
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Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
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no one wants to leave a ship, still afloat, abandoned; if so the first person to put a cable on board it can claim it as its salvorThanks, Bob! Abandonment. That's what I was looking for, pertaining to vessels at sea...just couldn't remember. And all seaman respect that. The other stuff (washed-up debris and broken moorings) I don't know about. Seems to me if the lobster pots have ID then the owners can claim them...even without a special law. But, then again, abandoned boats and ships have registration numbers and other means of identifying ownership, but the law of abandonment still stands there? A curious quandary. 
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maverick remarked (some time back) Come in, tsuwm - or should I say Oedipus Rex?
1233 unread messages... all I can do at this point is search for 'tsuwm'...
I have no idea where this ended up, but here is a wwftd entry from quite some time ago:
the worthless word for the day is: waveson
wreckage floating on the sea: flotsam
(note that jetsam is stuff thrown overboard to
lighten the load in time of distress and sinks
or is washed ashore)
so at some point all three (flotsam, jetsam and waveson) could be found floating adrift in the ocean.
and will I ever discover what the O. Rex allusion means?
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Glad you're back, tsuwm. safe ashore again. Now, lobster sandwiches are my absolute favouriteVery clever, Aunt mav! Subtlety lives!  Dr. Bill says Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.I hear his winter wasn't so bad, either.
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Dear Jackie: Do you mean the King's horses and King's men were able to put him back together again?
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