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#33253 06/25/01 01:22 PM
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<<Can't they come up with something new, instead of this slack verbification? >>

"Architecht?"


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Military campaigns, ... have their "architects" too. Usually refering to the person putting the grand plan together rather than the more detailed design.

Aren't they Strategists (grand plan) and Tacticians (detailed design)! OR ... Am I hoplessly out of date?


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Military campaigns, ... have their "architects" too
Aren't they Strategists (grand plan) and Tacticians (detailed design)!


Yes they are that. I was just showing that the term architect had been widely used/abused before the IT industry. And there are two arguments her; firstly, whether architect is acceptable as a noun in the IT industry; and secondly, whether verbing it is acceptable.

I am happy with the first, but then I am in the IT industry and have had architect in my title or job description often enough. It seems a reasonable parallel (as far as I can find out from my real architect friends). I find the verbification ugly, but that is a general battle to be fought. Who is going to architect our grand campaign?

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rodward finds the verbification ugly

How about architectificatatenize?


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Yeah, that fits the elegant perfession that gave us Windoze


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I've been both a database architect and a database designer.

The one pertains to tbe overall structure of the database system, not only in relation to the information it is going to store but also in terms of its relationships with the user, the computer system it runs on and other database systems with which it has to interact. The other, design, is determining what data gets stored where and the relationships between the data items which are being stored.

However, I loathe and detest the use of the verbified form "to architect". I can see no new meaning or nuances of existing meaning which can justify using it instead of designed, in exactly the same way that you would discuss the work of the architect of a house.

Jargon is useful in its place, but this is one term which belongs in the nether depths (with MacDonalds burgers).



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bushwa. as has been demonstrated, architecture is different from design. why ambiguate things by using the same verb for both? furthermoreover and in the second place, architect has been extant as a verb since early 18C.

1818 Keats Let. 23 July (1931) I. 219 This was architected thus By the great Oceanus. 1890 Harper's Mag. Apr. 809/2 We would not give being the author of one of Mr. Aldrich's beautiful sonnets to be the author of many ‘Wyndham Towers’, however skilfully architected. 1912 Rose Macaulay Views & Vag. viii. 153, I have no sort of interest in the architecting or building trades. 1913 Raleigh Some Authors (1923) 3 He has come out of the prison-house of theological system, nobly and grimly architected. 1923 Public Opinion 29 June 622/3 A+vague notion that a building ought to be architected.



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Glad to see you on my side, tsuwm, but.


Um, how to say this...

1818 is early 19th century.


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um... that was my abbreviation for 1800s... yeah, that's the ticket.


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18c (c={1}00)

I can live with that.


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