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#29847 05/22/01 12:37 AM
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Sorry, Max and Bob--I'm with wow on this one.

all the silken grace and deftness of a Dubya press conference. Sad but true.
Well, but Max, I (and others!) love you anyway. You wouldn't be who you are, if you were who you aren't.
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#29848 05/22/01 09:17 AM
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No tuxedo, only white shirt and tie. In better times my brother rented one for 1 day.

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The wise old woman asks: Please don't tell me you do not own a tux.

Very, well then, I won't. But I will tell you that I don't even own a T shirt with a tux design on it. Some people apparently can be comfortable all wrapped up in starched armor. I am not one of them. If you were to see me in a tuxedo or in tails you would be forced to admit that rather than having a certain je ne sais quoi* I had I don't know what.
*Ænigma suggests jealous Neal sake Quonset. I couldn't fail to disagree less.


#29850 05/22/01 12:13 PM
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coming in with Jackie and Wow-- (this is some issue-- an old lady from New England, a NY liberal, and southern belle all agree!)

There is some truth to the idea that "clothes make the man" -- and any man dressed up in a tux looks better-- doing anything-- even falling down a flight of stairs!

A well fitted tux is not a suit of armor-- the collar of the shirt shouldn't cut-- and in many ways the cut of the jacket makes it look good even when your arms are raised (as they would be dancing).

and gloves-- there is nothing that makes an outfit so finished looking as gloves... i wore a pair of antique netted gloves at a recent wedding. the only time I wish i was thin is for formal dress-- a long slinky gown, sleeve-less with gloves past the elbow -- still is the height of elegance!


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The swan's daughter claims: A well fitted tux is not a suit of armor

Yeahbut, can you muck the byre in one?


#29852 05/22/01 01:24 PM
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coming in with Jackie and Wow-- (this is some issue-- an old lady from New England, a NY liberal, and southern belle all agree!)

Add a midwestern lawyer to that crowd. I think we just discovered a unifying political force. All men look snazzy in a well-fitted tux. And who wouldn't want to wear a suit named after a New York lake?



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Sparteye wonders: who wouldn't want to wear a suit named after a New York lake?

Skinny Atlas?


#29854 05/22/01 03:35 PM
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...truth to the idea that "clothes make the man" This is just as (if not more) obviously *true for women.

I wore a slim cut tux jacket for many years every Sat. nite gigging. I went through four jackets by ripping the sholder open with the weight on the guitar strap.

Every one looks good when they are having fun!




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The swan's daughter claims: A well fitted tux is not a suit of armor

Hear! Hear! The operative words being "well fitted." My Dad was 6'4" and a BIG man all over ... Mother and I litterly press-ganged him to a GOOD tailor for the above! Think about it : if you're going out to a formal "do" you will probably get dressed about 5 p.m. and get home about 1 a.m. (if you're lucky) ... That's a minimum of eight hours...your tux should be as comfortable as your business suits, at the least. As for "sawed neck syndrome" -- it is unnecessary if the shirt and un-starched collar fit properly.
Dad once spent a long 14 hours in his tux and was gracious about crediting me and Mother for making him get a tailor- made tux that was comforable and fit!
And while I am on this //rant// please wear a real tie-it-yourself bow tie as a proper gentleman should. Yes, the skill can be mastered! And once mastered never forgotten.

Yeahbut, can you muck the byre in one?

Of course you can ... and look very elegant while you're doing it!

To the Ladies : Thank you for the support. Gratifying to say the least ... Now, if we can just get the dear men to fill the ice cube trays before putting them back in the freezer! Or is that really too high an aspiration?


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wow asks: Now, if we can just get the dear men to fill the ice cube trays before putting them back in the freezer! Or is that really too high an aspiration?

Sure thing, wow. Soon's we get you guys to put the toilet seat back up when y'all're done with it.






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