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Hello,
the subject says it already: does one say
in this proceedings
or rather
in these proceedings
where with proceedings I mean the book containing a number of contributions, etc.
Thanks,
Martin
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Grüß dich Martin,
I would go for 'these proceedings' e.g:
Foreign help has fequently been sought for these proceedings.
'This proceedings' is wrong.
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Greetings and welcome, Martin.
I am unfamiliar with "proceedings" meaning a book. Can you further elucidate?
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When you take all the papers presented at a conference and make them into a book for later reference, the whole shebang is generally referred to as "The Proceedings of the XXII Conference on Blahblahblah-ation of blah-uscular blah-forms" or whatever. It's listed in the library catalogues as such, as well.
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Well,
the most common usage of ``proceedings'' in my
trade (computer science, but it applies, I would assume,
to other sciences as well..) is to denote the book
containing all the papers, articles, and contributions to
a conference. The book is (or are?) the conference proceedings.
Martin
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Thanks, Bean and Martin for clearing that up. Even though it's a single compilation, my ear still tells me plural - but that's no guarantee it's correct.  So, Bean, would you use the singular or the plural?
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I would be inclined to use the plural, because that's the way I've seen it used. But the book is a single object, so it's kind of singular. (Kind of singular?!) Yeah, I think I would go with plural, though.
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I think that The Proceedings refers to the goings on at the conference. Its use in the title of the book is merely an indication of what the book is about and not to be taken as a term referring to the book itself.
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In my post I assumed that litigation, i.e. legal proceedings was implied.
Re. the 'record of a meeting/conference' meaning:
Should 'proceedings' be interchangeable with 'papers' or perhaps documentation?
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...the book containing all the papers, articles, and contributions to a conference. The book is (or are?) the conference proceedings.
Proceedings : onward movement ; business conducted by a court, assembly,or society. (OED)
Seems to me that the book would proceed onward, or as a result of, the confab. So proceedings would apper to be correct.
Nice to be with the majority for a change! (so far!)
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