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#28721 05/11/01 09:11 AM
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You see, I was listening to a CD from Cap. Kiwi's vast Hip-Hop collection today (Wu Tang - Forever), and one bloke says

[You are entirely confusing me with someone else -e]




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The phrase we often hear here is "detained at her Majesty's pleasure"

Thanks for clearing that up, Rod. Here in NZ we have a sentence called preventive detention, an indefinite sentence, allowing the authorities to incarcerate the recipient of that sentence for as long as they see fit. It is easily the harshest sentence available here, and seldom used. I had always assumed that the phrase you mentioned referred to the same sort of sentence.


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"detained at her Majesty's pleasure"

Max, you are quite right. The phrase does refer to an indeterminate sentence, usually for the criminally insane.

Rod



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You see, I was listening to a CD from Cap. Kiwi's vast Hip-Hop collection today (Wu Tang - Forever), and one bloke says

[You are entirely confusing me with someone else -e]


which is why Mr. Capital Kiwi, sir, you posted the response to me and not the Battling Boy?

Rod


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Dear Rod,

Yes, I am posting this to you, but C.K. did not, according to his quotes. 'T'aint his fault that you get notified of being clicked on... I for one still advocate clicking on whatever the last post is, most of the time. Also--I liked your term Battling Boy! Gee, now we have GRITS, a Britboy, and a Battling Boy. What next?

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From Encarta (note the origin):
Creek (plural Creek, Creeks) noun

1. PEOPLES member of Native N American people: a member of a Native North American people who originally occupied lands in Alabama, Georgia, and Florida, and whose members now live mainly in central Oklahoma and southern Alabama. The Creek were one of the Five Civilized Nations who, under the Removal Act of 1830, were sent to live on reservations in Oklahoma.

2. LANGUAGE Creek language: the Muskogean language of the Creek people. Creek is spoken by about 50,000 people.


[Early 18th century. From creek; from the large number of creeks in their country.]





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I for one still advocate clicking on whatever the last post is, most of the time
For me it depends. If it's a general extension of the thread then yes. If it's a specific response then I'll try to respond to the original poster. That way they get the answer, and any congrats or otherwise.

I had not heard of the Creek tribe, only of the Cree, who are different.

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"The hot box" was her unique way of referring to the jail in which the fellow had been detained.

Re-reading this first post it hit me that "Hot Box" has a prisoner-of-war connotation, mostly WWII, where a prisoner was placed in a box, sometimes fabricated of metal, in the hot sun.
Terrible.
A Hot Box was featured in the movie "Bridge on the River Kwai" and Alec Guiness, playing the senior British officer, was placed in it to break his spirit.


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The phrase does refer to an indeterminate sentence, usually for the criminally insane.

Wow - you lock up your country music fans? The sentence is used similarly here.


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Would this be the opposite torture that the one suffered through in the "cooler", or was *cooler an 'endearing' name for hotbox?

I thought I heard that 'cool' became a word for 'isolated' in the underground beat generation (not the surface published version).

The cooler brings thoughts of Col.Hogan and/or Steve McQueen in The Great Escape.


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Would this be the opposite torture that the one suffered through in the "cooler"

"Hot Box" in hot climes - isolation, no food/water - South Pacific Theater of War. Heat prostration, dehydration.

"Cooler" in cold climes - isolation, no food/water in cold climes - European Theater of War. Hypothermia.

Starvation resulting if isolation long term. Prisoners were already debilitated by internment.

Consider : most of the enlisted soldiers were men barely out of their teens and officers not much older.
Brave men.



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