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isis (i-ziz) noun, (not to be confused with Isis) thought to derive from presidential testimony, although this is unclear = 1) Logical arcanery; 2) an arcane logical construction hidden in a text, a kind of riddle, e.g. (to paraphrase), 'The Cheshire Cat disappeared very slowly until nothing was left but its grin."
The isis here is that, since cats don't have grins, this statement can only mean that the Cheshire Cat disappeared slowly until nothing was left of it at all (the "Carroll text"). It has been pointed out, however, that the Cheshire Cat was an invention of Carroll's, and, furthermore, that the Alice specimen was the only Cheshire Cat known with certainty to have existed. Because of this, the cat could, indeed, have had a grin and the meaning could, therefor, be the plain meaning of the text. But this argument has been convincingly refuted. Since we cannot know, with any degree of certainty, whether the Cheshire Cat did or did not, in fact, grin, the question of the extent of its grin's disappearance remains logically ambiguous and factually uncertain (the "isisic conundrum"); most experts are satisfied that this does not prevent us classifying the Carroll text as an isis. M Hare, however, proposes a different theory. On the basis of the isisic conundrum, Hare posits the existence of a hyper-isis existing between the plain of the text and the plane of the isisic conundrum, itself. Hare thus extrapolates from the Insel hypothesis according to which the deep grammar of the juxtaposition of the plain meaning with the plane meaning of the isis is equivalent to that of the encapsulated juxtaposition of "to decimate" as posited by IP. (see, also: hyper-isis)
vocuscious vo-kyoo-shus adj. from L. flatus vocus = said of windbags.
humptydumteenth hum-tee-dump-teenth adj from English nursery rhyme = used to describe the last of a long succession of computer failures, esp. of PCs, as in "My f'ing computer crashed for the humptydumpteenth time today."
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humptydumpteenth This "is" a word I like, irregardless of the definition of "is."  Thanks.
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It has been argued, however, that the Cheshire Cat was an invention of Carroll's, and, furthermore, that the Alice specimen was the only Cheshire Cat known certainly ever to have existed. Because of this, the cat could, indeed, have had a grin and the meaning could, therefor, be the plain meaning of the text. insel, you're weird!  I love it! Oh, convolutions within convolutions! And guess what, tsuwm? Here is empirical evidence of the first known "nonce cat"!
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Dear Max Quordlepleen: I had expected from you some bits of erudition about Lewis Carroll's choice of name for the Cheshire Cat. I tried the internet, and only got ads for a dozen restaurants and bed and breakfasts. I had thought that perhaps it was a genuine breed of cat.
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Not original but worth a mention?
DISCONFECT (dis kon fekt') v. To sterilize the piece of
candy you dropped on the floor by blowing on it, assuming this will somehow 'remove' all the germs.
ELBONICS (el bon' iks) n. The actions of two people maneuvering for one armrest in a movie theater.
PEPPIER (pehp ee ay') n. The waiter at a fancy restaurant whose sole purpose seems to be walking around asking diners if they want ground pepper.
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Cheshire Cat info...from Excite Search...Source: Brewers Dictionary of Phrase and Fable. "The phrase has never been satisfactorily explained, but it has been said that Cheshire cheese was once sold moulded like a cat that appeared to be grinning. The waggish explanation is that the cats know that Cheshire is a county palatine (properly the dominion of an earl palatine over which he had quasi-royal jurisdiction) and find the idea a source of amusement".
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DISCONFECT (dis kon fekt') v. To sterilize the piece of candy you dropped on the floor by blowing on it, assuming this will somehow 'remove' all the germs.My dictionary defines disconfect this way: "To remove a sweet from infectious material it has contaminated."  More new words: Serengyrate - to dance spontaneously at unexpected moments of joy. Serengyre - the serengyrate dance of such moments. Tralalate - to extol flowers for their power to intoxicate, but only while so intoxicated. Archanery - To tease the poorly educated through the use of archane knowledge. Archumvirate - The sum of a triumvirate, a despot, a leader once deathly feared by a cabinet no longer living.
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I thought that the Chesire cat was a real cat. The truth simply never occured to me.
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Serengyrate - to dance spontaneously at unexpected moments of joy. Serengyre - the serengyrate dance of such moments.Keep 'em comin' IP!
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It has been argued, however, that the Cheshire Cat was an invention of Carroll's...
In Carroll's childhood church (in cheshire) there is a carving on some point of the church-- with a smiling cat-- and as you move (closer? farther away?, to the side?) the cat seems to disappear, but the smile remains..
this was in some annotated volume of Alice in wonderland.. Perhaps someone who has a more information could add to this..
(Not that the whole isis theory isn't interesting, David...)
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<<(Not that the whole isis theory isn't interesting, David...)>> nor carved tooth kill the allegatory, nor churchmouse bell the cat the cheshire cat in stone memorialized recalls a cat that never was but was or not, what nonce cat never came when called?
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What are you on, David - and is it legal?
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Contact me back channel and we'll see what we can work out.
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The whole windbag discussion on isisitude reminded me of some great lines from the movie Barcelona, in which one character (A - a bit of a self-serving ass) is complaining to another (B - his nice cousin) about how people talk about books, and says (paraphrased freely, but with the intent intact):
A: Why do people always talk about the subtext? It's always subtext this and subtext that! They never talk about the words on the page! Do they even have a word for that?
B: It's called the text.
The isisists might merit similar puncturing.
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What are you on, David - and is it legal?Who cares - gimme!
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I love this word!! Makes up for all your past painful/punful transgressions, inselpeter.
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neutron development, or neutron renewal -- the practice of displacing the poor or working-class residents of an urban neighborhood in preparation for its occupation by professionals.
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In reply to:
Cheshire Cat info...from Excite Search...Source: Brewers Dictionary of Phrase and Fable. "The phrase has never been satisfactorily explained, but it has been said that Cheshire cheese was once sold moulded like a cat that appeared to be grinning. The waggish explanation is that the cats know that Cheshire is a county palatine (properly the dominion of an earl palatine over which he had quasi-royal jurisdiction) and find the idea a source of amusement".
This etymology is seconded in Dictionary of Word Origins, Jordan Almond: he says the phrase is from Ireland, where cheeses once sold in Cheshire County were molded to look like cats, and the cats had very broad grins.
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