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an aesthetically pleasing or harmonious sound or combination of sounds
Is a waterfall music? Wind blowing through trees? In the summer and winter? Or just in the summer?
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BY what I would like you to explain to me is exactly how a song that says “I’m gonna kill the b**ch, I’m gonna f**k my mother” in any way promotes the opposite. If they said any sentence to the effect that this type of hatred was incorrect then I would side with you on this one BUT they don’t. Spewing hatred in songs is not a way of eradicating it.
If a person puts up a poster crying out ‘all Germans are racists and should be eliminated’ would you stand up and say that that person is advocating humanity and harmony. No.
If the same person holds up the same poster, reads it to the crowd, then proceeds to explain why it is wrong, THAT would be a completely different scenario.
Same poster – different motives and results.
In “hate rap” like Eminem, he puts up the poster and runs away. The excuse that he lets people decide that it is wrong is rubbish. Publicity is all he is after, NOT tolerance, NOT harmony and certainly NOT humanity. If his songs incite hatred, so be it, he has made his money. For you to think otherwise I think is rather naïve.
There are several rap bands that are trying to show that rap is NOT hate music by refusing to go the easy route. Their songs are well thought out. They speak about the human condition, without advocating racism, misogyny, chauvinism, hatred or intolerance.
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<<Is [the sound of] a waterfall music?>>
If metaphor is music, yes; and if not, still music to my ears.
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<<The excuse that he lets people decide that it is wrong is rubbish.>>
Agreed, Bel. One thing: the word is spin -- the rest is money
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belM. I wrote
>'Intolerance' is not what he's preaching - in fact it's the opposite
I didn't claim anything else. Understand though, he just kidding about with language when he says 'I’m gonna kill the b**ch... '. He's just looking to provoke the listener, not to do any good as such, except maybe take the wool from in front of people's eyes. Anyways, I'm not going to defend him and the rest of my, largely apathetic generation more than that, think what you will. To think that a few words could make such an ordeal.
p.s. I like your ‘all Germans are racists and should be eliminated’. This kind of 'reflexive' (what's a better word?) thinking is practised by governments on a daily basis
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<<To think that a few words could make such an ordeal.>>
Not words, actions
<<'I'm gonna kill the bitch'.>>
Not five words, five times millions.
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I scanned the chapter of The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat which pertains to persistent musical hallucinations. I didn't notice an established term for the condition, whether regarded as hallucinations (in the cases of his patients, which seemed to have been prompted by stroke or other trauma) or as the more ordinary memories, but Dr Sachs does suggest that the conditions are "hypermnesis" or "hypergnosis." Of course, he was more concerned with relating to the underlying pathology than with describing the symptom.
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and in honor of MSU's third successive Final Four  , here is the MSU Fight Song. It was written by yellmaster Francis Lankey, a civil engineering major, in 1915. On the banks of the Red Cedar
There's a school that's known to all;
Its specialty is winning,
And those Spartans play good ball;
Spartan teams are never beaten,
All through the game they'll fight;
Fight for the only colors,
Green and White.
Go right through for MSU,
Watch the points keep growing.
Spartan teams are bound to win,
They're fighting with a vim.
Rah! Rah! Rah!
See their team is weakening,
We're going to win this game.
Fight! Fight! Rah! Team fight!
Victory for MSU!
GO SPARTANS!
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Pooh-Bah
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Sparteye,
You ever see "The Freshman" with Harold Lloyd?
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"You ever see "The Freshman" with Harold Lloyd?
Nuh-uh. Harold Lloyd was the slapsticky guy in the silents, wasn't he? I have seen very, very little vintage film.
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