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#24489 03/25/01 06:28 PM
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Is this the "equivalent" of pronouncing the word wash as "wore-sh"?

Help me out, s'il you bitte, musick. Do you mean that for you the vowel sounds in "wash" and "horse" are the same? That would make "horse" into "hoss", here at any rate. The reason horse and sauce rhyme here is because, we don't pronounce "r" much. This was a conscious decision on our part, done to provide amusement for the overly rhotic, especially those who know what paua are.


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"phbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt" is a bilabial fricative.

I'll go back to my cave now.


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paua = "pa-yew-ah"?(that's how I read it) I've never heard this.

I was originally going to say "...retrograde...", but I figured "equivalent" would highlight the last time someone in this thread ignored my "". (I guess not) Do you mean that for you the vowel sounds in "wash" and "horse" are the same? No.

Enough help, I hope. Now help me..."s'il you bitte? paua?"


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Now help me..."s'il you bitte? paua?"

"s'il you bitte" is the simply the extent of my grasp of the the three languages used, "s'il vous plait", "if you please", "bitte". Paua, pronounced pa-wah is the Maori name for the shellfish USns call abalone. My reference to it was a jocular aside to one who cruelly mocked my non-rhoticism.







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Thanks, Daryl

Those are great. I did see a similar road and toad one, but I thought it was too obscure. This one is plain as day, and I like it :). Obscuraty isn't necessarily something that keeps me from posting things, but on this one, I was trying to lure them in.

Glad to have aboard! I hope you have fun here, and to hear lots from you!

David


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See how much you understand David:

I was in the Karsi, sitting on me Kyber, using the grey matter, when I thought, wouldn't it be nice if me Dutch made some Rosy. She got some fresh Adam's there. So I went down the Apples and told her. We could go up to the Rubba. Me in me best Whistle and Titfer and me new Daisy's, and her in her best bib and tucker with her new Tile. It's a long Frog but we'd do it O.K. on Shank's Pony. That's if our Plates last out. Probably see a couple of me Chinas there with the Arrows and a Pig or two. One's a Brummie, one's a Scouse. He might have his Geordie mate with him too. Could see another China of the way, he's a Septic but not a bad bloke. Likes to knock you a bit though. If I see the Runner, I'll probably put a Pony on a Nag, but if there is a Peeler about, he'll probably have it on his toes. If he gets Nicked he'll be Banged up for a full moon. I'll ask for a Butcher's at the form if he's on his Jack. If I win I'll get a Lardy and some snout for her. She's a bit Mutton at the moment but you should see the Minces in her Boat and her Barnet is a joy to behold. Won't even mention her North and South. Lovely as ever.

Confused Dave? 'Ave a butcher's at http://www.bio.nrc.ca/cockney/. And get that expression off your Chevy Chase :-)


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AnnaS notes: "phbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt" is a bilabial fricative.

I've allus spelled it BWR. It's the first phoneme in BWRENTARRRR, the Ludicrans word for big motorcycle.


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Thanks. That's b'youth'full.


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I understand the need to use these rhyming slangs during the war, when there was a need to camouflage what you were saying...but why does this continue today.

Why would anyone prefer saying "I Adam and Eve you" instead of "I believe you"?

Look at the paragraph given by belli above. It can be cut in half if you use the real words or have these expressions become the real words?

Does a child who is raised speaking only the cockney tongue know that a barrow is called a barrow in the English speaking world. If you show him a picture of a barrow, does he know it as as a bow and arrow only?

In the dictionary you send us to Belli, there are words that are represented by pretty recent things like Sigourney Weaver and Britney Spears. Would EVERBODY know what a speaker was talking about if they used those two terms?


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> Would EVERBODY know what a speaker was talking about if they used those two terms?

I don't think so; that's half the fun of it though - to work things out from their context. It's playful; you can coin your own, and you're never wrong! I don't think there's much of a worry that kids would only learn the rhyming slang terms, because the vocab. is very general, just common, everyday words which they'd pick up regardless which way.


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