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CapK reminds us all: Actually, Julius was a liar. Uderzo and Goscinny have written the definitive history of Roman Gaul Yup. that's where I learned all I needed to know, and have felt no need to consult any other sources. Not even Robert Graves (hi, Faldage). 
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I still think Rome would have been better off if Caesar had become Emperor. The man who made Octavian his heir surely was the greatest benefactor Rome ever knew.
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O Captain, my Captain, I'm so glad you asked. First, the translations. The speakers are old-fashioned YUPPIES, and the colloquies take place during those bewitching after-work hours at a local watering hole. The first speaker (these are a bit dated) says "I have a fax machine in my BMW." Magister (BYB), please correct my Sid Caesar faux-German, but "Officina Baiuoaria, etc" is asserted to be the Latin equivalent of "Bayerische(n) Motor Werken" etc,
The second speaker says " My Jacuzzi ( I might have used "Charybdis" but maybe it is a Trademark) is filled w/ Perrier.("aqua scintillante fontana Gallica") The quotations come from books by Henry Beard, LINGUA LATINA OCCASIONIBUS OMNIBUS and LINGUA LATINA MULTO PLURIBUS OCCASIONIBUS (Latin For Even More Occasions), the latter published 2744 a.u.c. Beard has, in English, a clever slant on American culture of the late 80s and his Latin seems to me to be simultaneously proper and creative (op. cit.) BYB, these may be a bit infra dig. for you, but you might take a look if you have not seen the books. CapK, Marianna,others interested, ck it out.
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de balneis bmwiisque
I'm always behind everyone since my computer is in my office, so on Monday morning I see all this stuff, and it takes a good while to read it all.
I don't have a Latin dictionary in the office, but when I read the original post, I did get the one about the jacuzzi and sparkling water, but missed the BMW one. No comment on the atrocity of this dog latin.
For a really elegant modern translation into Latin, let me recommend Winnie Ille Pu, an excellent, and funny, translation of A.A.Milne's classic into classical Latin. I forget the name of the translator (the book is at home). I contains the immortal line, "De heffalumpibus semper dubitandum est."
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Magister, My copy of WINNIE ILLE PU is a paperback (revised edition with notes and glossary), but it is peppered throughout w/ the Pooh drawings. The Translator is, as I assume you have checked by now, Alexander Lenard. For the benefit of others who may be interested, Lenard, born in 1910 in Budapest, fled from the Nazis and ended up in Brazil. The translation of Pooh into Latin was the work of seven years, a process which was started by translating it into German. Lenard was fluent in twelve languages at the time of his death in 1972. The cover of the book proudly asserts that Winnie Ille Pu is the only book in Latin ever to grace the New York Times bestseller list. I liked (Cicero style) "O tempora , o mos ablutionis retroauricularis!" which Notes translate as "O this modern custom of washing behind the ears!" cf. "O tempora! O mores!" Winnie Ille Pu is best enjoyed by me, with my lapsed Latin, with a copy of Winnie the Pooh at my elbow for ready reference.
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The thought of a bunch of tipsy yuppies, G&Ts waving wildly in the air, as they slaughter Latin is possibly one of the most frightening thoughts that has ever crossed my mind. Timeo yuppiensis ...
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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"Ober" oder "ueber"?
So weit ich weiss, gibt es auf Deutsch keinen Ausdruck wie "ober." Man musste belligerentyouth danach fragen.
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"...fled from the Nazis and ended up in Brazil"
Is there a word meaning "serendipity" in the context of bad luck?
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malendipity came to mind, and when i googled it to see if it had been coined before, i stumbled upon "Schlimmbesserung", which is evidently a German word (who'd have guessed?) meaning "an [ostensible] improvement that makes things worse". the example cited by one site is the invention of the styrofoam cup.
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Herr Ober is the guy to ask when you want more beer.
and an Oberleutnant can harass a mere Leutnant.
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