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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread #175941 - 04/17/08 10:49 AM Socrates:elenctic   Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague Quote:  Quote: "Because he has spent so much of his life in elenctic argument, we are sometimes tempted to infer that Socrates knows more than he is letting on about the subject matter at hand." By chance I'm just reading (Plato) Socrates (in English) because those are interesting conversations even the simpler mind can follow. After reading Charmides, Lysis and Laches, I had second thoughts on the great philosopher. Must admit he was beginning to irritate me because he always refutes his own line of thought, systematically throwing away the agreement that has been reached at that point. I thought: Maybe they wanted to condemn him mainly because he was always so right and so good, just like Jesus (keeping religion on the side) was (I think) hated mainly because they thought him too good to be true. And teaching (preaching) the virtuous life that so many powerful men could and would not possibly lead must have made the both of them many enemies. I came to Apology and Crito. I'm fascinated by his defence and I see that from here on it will be about how he chooses to die. I never knew that Plato, besides being the philosopher, was also a sort of journalist. Socrates: Let us consider the matter together, and do you either refute me if you can, and I will be convinced; or else cease, my dear friend, from repeating to me that I ought to escape against the wishes of the Athenians. Last edited by BranShea; 04/17/08 07:52 PM. #217097 - 06/15/14 10:30 AM Re: Socrates:elenctic [Re: BranShea]   Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 287 Bazr enthusiast Bazr   enthusiast Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 287 Victoria, Australia Isn't Socrates just saying, that if you debate a more plausible argument than his, he will be convinced. But do not judge him without cause. Either 'put up' or 'shut up'. live in the moment Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) (Old) Weekly themes. (have been consolidated into a single forum above) ------   Words from medicine   Beheading words   Meta-words   Words from classical mythology   Animal Safari   Words with unusual etymologies   Eponyms or words derived from people's names.   Loanwords from German   English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode View Profile Send Private Message View Homepage Follow User Show Forum Posts View Profile Send Private Message Follow User Show Forum Posts Forum Statistics Forums16 Topics13,880 Posts224,654 Members9,045 Most Online3,341 Dec 9th, 2011 Newest Members DavidOrigami, RichEngle, Stosh2010, CarolWilliamson, Farscape07 9045 Registered Users Who's Online Now 0 registered members (), 85 guests, and 3 spiders. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Top Posters(30 Days) wofahulicodoc 48 A C Bowden 27 LukeJavan8 11 may2point0 2 Top Posters(All Time) wwh 13,858 Faldage 13,803 Jackie 11,613 tsuwm 10,538 LukeJavan8 9,120 wofahulicodoc 7,879 Buffalo Shrdlu 7,210 AnnaStrophic 6,511 Wordwind 6,296 of troy 5,400

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