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Topic Options #175941 - 04/17/08 06:49 AM Socrates:elenctic BranShea Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 5295 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague Quote:  Quote: "Because he has spent so much of his life in elenctic argument, we are sometimes tempted to infer that Socrates knows more than he is letting on about the subject matter at hand." By chance I'm just reading (Plato) Socrates (in English) because those are interesting conversations even the simpler mind can follow. After reading Charmides, Lysis and Laches, I had second thoughts on the great philosopher. Must admit he was beginning to irritate me because he always refutes his own line of thought, systematically throwing away the agreement that has been reached at that point. I thought: Maybe they wanted to condemn him mainly because he was always so right and so good, just like Jesus (keeping religion on the side) was (I think) hated mainly because they thought him too good to be true. And teaching (preaching) the virtuous life that so many powerful men could and would not possibly lead must have made the both of them many enemies. I came to Apology and Crito. I'm fascinated by his defence and I see that from here on it will be about how he chooses to die. I never knew that Plato, besides being the philosopher, was also a sort of journalist. Socrates: Let us consider the matter together, and do you either refute me if you can, and I will be convinced; or else cease, my dear friend, from repeating to me that I ought to escape against the wishes of the Athenians. Edited by BranShea (04/17/08 03:52 PM) Top #217097 - 06/15/14 06:30 AM Re: Socrates:elenctic [Re: BranShea] Bazr enthusiast Registered: 12/01/08 Posts: 287 Loc: Victoria, Australia Isn't Socrates just saying, that if you debate a more plausible argument than his, he will be convinced. But do not judge him without cause. Either 'put up' or 'shut up'. _________________________ live in the moment Top Previous Topic Index Next Topic Preview Hop to: General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) (Old) Weekly themes. (have been consolidated into a single forum above) ------   Words from medicine   Beheading words   Meta-words   Words from classical mythology   Animal Safari   Words with unusual etymologies   Eponyms or words derived from people's names.   Loanwords from German   English as a global language Moderator:  Jackie  Print Topic Switch to Threaded Mode View profile Send a PM View homepage Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts Forum Stats 8946 Members 16 Forums 13866 Topics 222180 Posts Max Online: 3341 @ 12/09/11 02:15 PM Newest Members Daksh1, geoffhargreaves, Guadalupe, may2point0, Lonnie 8946 Registered Users Who's Online 0 registered (), 37 Guests and 5 Spiders online. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Top Posters (30 Days) wofahulicodoc 61 LukeJavan8 50 may2point0 13 May 3 Tromboniator 3 geoffhargreaves 1 Top Posters wwh 13858 Faldage 13803 Jackie 11613 tsuwm 10538 LukeJavan8 8426 Buffalo Shrdlu 7210 wofahulicodoc 6784 AnnaStrophic 6511 Wordwind 6296 of troy 5400

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