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#212151 - 08/14/13 10:19 PM Re: Why is Understanding Evolution important? [Re: jenny jenny]  
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And there's no correlation between the sound and the thing being referred to.

#212157 - 08/15/13 03:15 AM Re: Why is Understanding Evolution important? [Re: Faldage]  
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Originally Posted By: Faldage
And there's no correlation between the sound and the thing being referred to.


onomatopoeia?


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#212160 - 08/15/13 10:38 AM Re: Why is Understanding Evolution important? [Re: jenny jenny]  
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Even that is subject to the phonemics of a given language. Here is a compendium of dog barks in different languages.

#212162 - 08/15/13 02:16 PM Re: Why is Understanding Evolution important? [Re: jenny jenny]  
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Fascinating!


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#212174 - 08/16/13 06:30 PM Re: Why is Understanding Evolution important? [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]  
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So as this board now turns, we agree that "words" have no intrinsic relationship to the object or the non-objects they represent, therefore "words" have no meaning; words only have a function, namely -- the transfer of thoughts between human beings and other human beings and to dogs and monkeys and maybe, but not likely, to cats. Right?

#212178 - 08/16/13 09:36 PM Re: Why is Understanding Evolution important? [Re: Faldage]  
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Originally Posted By: Faldage
Even that is subject to the phonemics of a given language. Here is a compendium of dog barks in different languages.
Great! Very amusing this dog-bark list. Thank you Faldage!
Interesting detail: only English and Dutch have the sound of very small dogs included (yip-yip and kef-kef).
Basque language is uniquely having a sound of old dogs included (jau-jau). Great list!

Everything has the meaning one is willing or capable of to give to it, I think.


#212183 - 08/17/13 01:49 AM Re: Why is Understanding Evolution important? [Re: BranShea]  
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I think that we can all agree that when we use a word, it means just what we choose it to mean neither more nor less.

#212185 - 08/17/13 11:32 AM Re: Why is Understanding Evolution important? [Re: jenny jenny]  
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And there's whole lists of words we pay extra.

#212186 - 08/17/13 12:33 PM Re: Why is Understanding Evolution important? [Re: tsuwm]  
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I think that we can all agree that when we use a word, it means just what we choose it to mean neither more nor less.

Yes, tsuwm, but usually when we choose a word we choose to have it understood by whomever it is we are to speak, otherwise, why speak?

The salient question is: Where and how is a word physically stored in the brain where it waits unobtrusively for our request for retrieval?

#212188 - 08/17/13 02:05 PM Re: Why is Understanding Evolution important? [Re: jenny jenny]  
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> usually when we choose a word we choose to have it understood by whomever it is we are to speak, otherwise, why speak?


Oh, I think there are a lot of people who speak only to hear themselves.


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