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#20866 03/07/01 02:20 PM
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But still burning topless towers from the thousand launched ships,so anything but plain.


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"One funny thing about first names. At least by the time you can walk, you have a nickname. Why not start with the nickname?"

I come from a family full of people who so detested their given names that they changed them fairly early in life. I subscribe to the idea that we ought to give our babies temporary names but permit the children to select their own names when they reach age twelve.


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shanks pondered First name - Ravi - name of sun god in Sanskrit. Middle name - Shankar (one of Lord Shiva's names, and one my grandfather had{

And, of course, you are the world famous sitar player!



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My wife's cousin, a good friend of ours, was named Michael when he was born, but he detested it so much as he got older than he began to call himself "Denny". When he was twenty he had his name legally changed to Denny, and Denny he is. Have any of your family gone to those lengths, Sparteye?



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Commercial products with translated names are often made up to sound Hawaiian by changing a letter or two and this sometimes results in a name with a ridiculous meaning.
Real Hawaiian names have meaning. The name given me by my Hawaiian friends has nothing to do with a translation of Ann.
Here are a few equivalent Hawaiian names :

Helen - Ke'Alohi - bright, splendid, glittering one
Jackie- Ukali - one who comes after or follows (Anu ?)
Dorothy- Makana Lani - heavenly gift
Jo - Lokomaka'i - good, generous, gracious, kind
David - Hiwahiwa - precious and beloved
Maryann - Maika'i Hoku O Ke Kai -beautiful lady of the sea
Belle or Bella - 0 Ka Nani the beautiful one
Paul- Mea Li'i -the little one also the Chiefly one
Keven (Kevin) Nohea -handsome or Nohea I Ka Hanau -handsome by birth
Ann -Maka'i - excellent, beautiful righteous, well-being
Cristina - Mea La'a - consecrated or holy one
Robert - Ihi Lani - heavenly splendor
Geoff - Ho'omaluluhia - cause or give peace
William - Au Kanai'i -strong warior,litterally strong current
Max - Mea Nui - the greatest
(no kidding, that's the meaning)
Shoshanna - (Susan) Pa'inui -lily & Hannah - Maika'i- goodness & grace -
Combining the two- lily of goodness and grace
Pa'inui Maka'i

Send Private for pronunciation and PLEASE include the name to save me looking up again.
Sorry Ravi and Dagny -- but give me meanings and I may be able come up with names.
If I left anyone out, inquire by Private?
Thank you
Enjoy
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P.S. Bow to Eileen Root's "Hawaiian Names-English Names"
and to the Pukui-Elbert Hawaiian Dictionary - the definitive work.


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Or do like kings and Catholics do-- give them lots of names so they can chose one...

officially i am helen mary bernadette patricia-- but for all practial puposes i am helen, and never use a middle inital (which one?)-- My sister geraldine didn't get as many names, geraldine was thought by my mother to be such a big name, that she didn't need as many names!


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geraldine was thought by my mother to be such a big name, that she didn't need as many names!


I've already give info on my Hebrew name, but my 'given' name is Suzanne (named for my grandmother Susie and my great-grandmother Susannah)... like poor Geraldine, sister to Helen of the many names following... my father thought Suzanne was enough, and so I don't have a middle name. Well, at least that's what I thought until I was 12 and my sisters (twins) were born - each of them has only one name as well, though their names are short - Sarah and Laurie.

So, why didn't we get middle names? Because our dear father thought that women should only be given one name at birth as, in his mind, since they would take their husbands' names at marriage, the 'maiden' name would become the instant middle name! That has worked for my two sisters, but since I never married, I still have only what I was given at birth! And at this stage in my life, even if I was to marry, I probably would just keep it this way - it'd really be too much trouble for my friends to learn a new name for me now!

Shoshannah (Suzanne)



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but for all practial puposes i am helen, and never use a middle inital (which one?)


Now this is something that has always annoyed me. Where does this insistance of US'ns that one can only have one middle initial come from? I have two middle names outside the Board and I don't see why I should give up either.

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Oh, wow, thank you! This is so neat!

Helen - Ke'Alohi - bright, splendid, glittering one
Definitely
Jackie- Ukali - one who comes after or follows (Anu ?)
Apt. One book said I'm "the supplanter"--very apt--
I'm what my parents got in the place of the kid they really
wanted.

Dorothy- Makana Lani - heavenly gift
Her gifts to this board have been "leaven-ly".
Jo - Lokomaka'i - good, generous, gracious, kind
This I can vouch for! Thanks again for the loan of the jumpers, Dearest.
David - Hiwahiwa - precious and beloved
More than he knows.
Maryann - Maika'i Hoku O Ke Kai -beautiful lady of the sea
Can't argue with that.
Belle or Bella - 0 Ka Nani the beautiful one
Most definitely.
Paul- Mea Li'i -the little one also the Chiefly one
Chief of good cheer and good will!
Keven (Kevin) Nohea -handsome or Nohea I Ka Hanau -handsome by birth
Keven is a beautiful person indeed.
Ann -Maka'i - excellent, beautiful righteous, well-being
All spot on, though maybe the last post-winter.
Cristina - Mea La'a - consecrated or holy one
Sorry--not qualified to assess this.
Robert - Ihi Lani - heavenly splendor
Vast understatement, this.
Geoff - Ho'omaluluhia - cause or give peace
Not all the time. Rolling on the floor with
laughter is not peaceful.

William - Au Kanai'i -strong warior,litterally strong current
He is indeed strong.
Max - Mea Nui - the greatest
(no kidding, that's the meaning)
Could NOT be more perfect.
Shoshanna - (Susan) Pa'inui -lily & Hannah - Maika'i- goodness & grace -
Combining the two- lily of goodness and grace
Pa'inui Maka'i
Seems that way to me.



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Reading this thread, and being delighted to discover that Hawaiian expresses my essence so aptly gave me the idea for a wonderfully obscure challenge. I suspect that most here do not not know my "real" name. The Maori word "kaitiaki" expresses a concept very similar to that of my given name. If you can find out what kaitiaki means, you will probably be able to have an intelligent guess at what my real name is. I solemnly peomise to spin a roomful of the Emperor's new clothes for all who get it right. Post your guesses in private or publicly, as you wish.


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