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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 1 of 2 1 2 #208123 - 11/27/12 04:37 AM Kilting party   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Jackie Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky My son is going to be wearing a kilt to be in a friend's wedding (oh, this is going to be SO photo-worthy!). How did a kilt come to be called that, please? #208125 - 11/27/12 06:35 AM Re: Kilting party [Re: Jackie]   Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh It's from a verb in Middle English kilten 'to tuck up'. It's from Scandinavian, Old Icelandic. Ceci n'est pas un seing. #208129 - 11/27/12 01:10 PM Re: Kilting party [Re: zmjezhd]   Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague Then to tuck up your kilt would be a redundancy?. Any relation between quilt and kilt? #208130 - 11/27/12 02:12 PM Re: Kilting party [Re: BranShea]   Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Quilt comes ultimately from Latin culcita, 'mattress'. #208135 - 11/27/12 05:33 PM Re: Kilting party [Re: Jackie]   Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,981 LukeJavan8 Carpal Tunnel LukeJavan8   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,981 Land of the Flat Water To tuck up must be akin to the biblical "to gird one's loins". The long robes worn in that era would prevent haste, thus to pick up the hems of the robe and tuck them in to the belt to free the lower legs from obstruction so movement could be quicker. ----please, draw me a sheep---- #208136 - 11/27/12 06:03 PM Re: Kilting party [Re: LukeJavan8]   Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh "to gird one's loins". Gird (< ME girden < OE gyrdan 'to gird, bind round; L. cingere') is related to girdle. The concept behind girding is to encircle or put on a belt. Loins weren't the only things being girded in the Old Testament: cf. Lev VIII.7. And he put upon him the coat, and girded him with the girdle, and clothed him with the robe, and put the ephod upon him, and he girded him with the curious girdle of the ephod, and bound [it] unto him therewith. Ceci n'est pas un seing. #208137 - 11/27/12 06:05 PM Re: Kilting party [Re: BranShea]   Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh Any relation between quilt and kilt? Nope (see Faldo's reply for etymology) just a happy coincidence. Ceci n'est pas un seing. #208141 - 11/27/12 06:56 PM Re: Kilting party [Re: zmjezhd]   Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,981 LukeJavan8 Carpal Tunnel LukeJavan8   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,981 Land of the Flat Water Thanks for the research. ----please, draw me a sheep---- #208188 - 12/01/12 05:35 AM Re: Kilting party [Re: Jackie]   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Jackie Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Thanks, all! zmjezhd, I was going to ask you what men who wear a kilt are tucking up, but I reckon Luke answered that. #208562 - 12/31/12 05:28 PM Re: Kilting party [Re: zmjezhd]   Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 maverick Carpal Tunnel maverick   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 > put the ephod upon him Yes, very curious - since I gather this word comes from the Hebrew meaning 'to put on', it looks suspiciously like a translation error, doesn't it? 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