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Word origin...Cockney #206928
08/31/12 11:53 AM
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I've had no luck so far find the origin of the word "Cockney". I know what it means...a Londoner born within the sound of St. Mary-le-Bow's bells but not the derivation of the word itself. Help?

Re: Word origin...Cockney [Re: 1969] #206929
08/31/12 12:23 PM
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One of the more popular etymologies is that it is from the Middle English coken eye, literally "cock's egg", originally applied to a small, misshapen egg, later used as a term of derision by rural people to refer to city dwellers. It later became specifically applied to Londoners and eventually to one group of Londoners.

Re: Word origin...Cockney [Re: Faldage] #206934
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Most interesting, thanks.


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Re: Word origin...Cockney [Re: LukeJavan8] #206936
08/31/12 07:26 PM
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As a Londoner myself, although not, technically a cockney, I agree with Faldo's etymology. There seems, also, to be some conection with "the land of Cockayne," but I'm not too sure just what that involves. However, it woukd appear to be a place of ease and plenty, significantly a land where there is no shortage of food - a very important motivation for the poor of London. An absence of people overlooking and regulating your life and no restirctions o your "liberty" seem to fiogure large in tale of this fabled land.


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Re: Word origin...Cockney [Re: 1969] #206941
09/01/12 03:35 AM
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Ah...if only such a place existed.


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