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Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie] #206293
06/30/12 03:04 PM
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The original phrase for the upper-class English accent was, "... speaking as though he/she had a plum in his/her mouth." 60 years ago, this was the usual version over here - "plummy" is a more modern usage - I guess I first heard it 30 years ago, or so.

(PS - over here ir is also sometimes referred to as "BBC English," as the brisitsh Broadcasting Company had very strict rules about how their announcers spoke. They have eased the rules quite a bit over the past decade.)


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Re: Plummy [Re: Rhubarb Commando] #206349
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speaking as though he/she had a plum in his/her mouth." Good gracious--I don't know how most people could get a plum in their mouth, let alone speak around it. Or--she said, being a bit slow on metaphors--did that come about perhaps because there was a time when only the rich could afford to buy plums?
Thank you, at any rate.

Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie] #206352
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My theory is that, inthe C19, before intensive agriculture, plums were quite a bit smaller. And if they were thinking of Damsons - well, they really are quite small.


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Re: Plummy [Re: Rhubarb Commando] #206390
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Originally Posted By: Rhubarb Commando
(PS - over here ir is also sometimes referred to as "BBC English," as the brisitsh Broadcasting Company had very strict rules about how their announcers spoke. They have eased the rules quite a bit over the past decade.)



Quite a bit! Hah, some programmes have presenters who are totally incapable of using correct grammar, not to mention pronunciation...if it was just a different accent then I wouldn't mind so much, but they can't even talk properly to begin with. Sorry, pet peeve of mine wink


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Re: Plummy [Re: bexter] #206393
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Pet peeve of mine as well. We have a couple networks that must
have no proofreaders, or whatever the people are called who
put the stuff on the teleprompters for the anchors to read.
And the bylines across the bottom are atrocious.


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Re: Plummy [Re: LukeJavan8] #206395
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>> some programmes have presenters who are totally incapable of using correct grammar, not to mention pronunciation <<

This is especially true of Radio 1 and 2, and some of the more "popular" TV channels. I mostly listen to Radios 3 & 4, where the problem, whilst existing there, is not acute.


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Re: Plummy [Re: Rhubarb Commando] #206396
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Of course our radio and TV run on a different system, and
they go the whole gamut. When it is news broadcasting
is the time I object the most, thinking, "they should know
better". The other stations are clueless with their
"reality' TV mind, and so incapable of intelligent thought
to begin with. (And, yes, that is just my opinion.)


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Re: Plummy [Re: LukeJavan8] #206400
07/10/12 09:13 PM
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Yes, we also have a whole range of commercial stations which are of vsriable quality. BBC, the non-comercial Corporation, is suppose to transcend such things! However, the absolute classic came just over a ear ago when James Naughtie, (pronounced 'Nocktie') who is a Scot with a superb accent and an admirable command of the language, managed to Spoonerise the name and title of Cabinet Minister James Hunt, Cultural Secretary .........

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Re: Plummy [Re: Rhubarb Commando] #206402
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heh,heh: I can imagine.


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Re: Plummy [Re: LukeJavan8] #208563
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> imagine

In this wunnerfool digital age, no need! I doubt if your imagination would do justice to Jim's giggling attempts to regain control smile

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