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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 #205970 - 06/05/12 02:47 AM Plummy   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Jackie Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky From an article: ...speaking in their own local accents instead of the plummy English known among academics as Received Pronunciation. Why "Received Pronunciation", and, especially, why "plummy"? #205976 - 06/05/12 04:02 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]   Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Received_pronunciation plummy 1resembling a plum: cosy reds and plummy blues 2British informal (of a person’s voice) having an accent thought typical of the English upper classes: a plummy voice rich with haughty disdain 3British informal choice; highly desirable: there are some plummy roles for the taking here [Compact Oxford Dict.] #205979 - 06/05/12 04:54 AM Re: Plummy [Re: tsuwm]   Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 956 olly old hand olly   old hand Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 956 Auckland, New Zealand Recieved Pronounciation Standard british English, Think BBC1 #205980 - 06/05/12 10:34 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]   Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Received Pronunciation If not Jackie's question, at least mine, is not what it means but why call it Received? #205981 - 06/05/12 10:39 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]   Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Not to mention what is it about plums? They're kinda shaped like pears and when something goes all pear shaped it's not a good thing. #205983 - 06/05/12 12:48 PM Re: Plummy [Re: Faldage]   Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass ? plums are pretty much round, at least here in flyover land. if they've gone pear-shaped, they're probly not too good for eating. #205984 - 06/05/12 12:49 PM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]   Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 But if your tones go all pear-shaped that's a good thing, right? #205985 - 06/05/12 01:13 PM Re: Plummy [Re: Faldage]   Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass evidently going pear-shaped is different to having pear-shaped tones. the word detective ties the former phrase to the Royal Air Force, where learning to fly apparently includes doing acrobatic loops. Difficult for even an experienced pilot, these loops as performed by a novice are more than likely to appear lopsided and "pear-shaped." One can imagine observers on the ground saying, "Good. Good. Oh rats, he's gone all pear-shaped." it's somewhat of a contranymic phrase, what? #205986 - 06/05/12 03:27 PM Re: Plummy [Re: Faldage]   Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague If not Jackie's question, at least mine, is not what it means but why call it Received? In polite and plummy English Received here means: Accepted by General agreement and/or in spite of General Disagreement. #206031 - 06/09/12 02:02 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Jackie Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Ah. Merci. Faldage got my meaning perzactly. And, who is General Disagreement? He sounds rather a shady character. 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