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Hey. "On the bus or off the bus" comes from Ken Kesey's Merry Pranksters, as in Tom Wolfe's the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test.

It means you get it or you don't. You're there or you're not. I mean it as there IS a right answer or there's not. I'm looking for a rhetorical term for a specific phenomenon (a class of things named after/named in homage to another class of things - NO PROPER NAMES involved) and it either has a name in rhetoric i.e. Latin, or it does not!

And I do not believe eponym is the term for which I'm searching. According to all I've read, eponym involves A PROPER NAME on one side of the equation or the other, e.g. note the quote from BranShea [thank you] "ONE whose name" is, i.e. the name of an actual PERSON, for example Caesar as in Caesarian.

But let's keep trying. Really. I wanna KNOW!!!!

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Thank you for "On the bus or off the bus" .
I'm afraid you will have to invent the word yourself and please share it with us when you have had your eureka moment. ;-)

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I'm with Bran. I've been following the discussion and I get
more and more in the dark as I do.


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Well I'm obviously not the Diogenes or Prometheus for this block so I got no more light to give. Maybe sometime, somewhere, either someone will stumble on this discussion and elucidate it for us ... or if I find help elsewhere it'll be share and share alike.

Thanks! Alley

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Lots of luck.


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I advance the word 'mule'. As a hybrid, as a stubborn subject.


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not bad, could take the discussion in a different direction.


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the mule must have gone back to the stable.


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Yup, many critters do wander off.


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Or is it just closing the stable door after the mule has gone off to figure out how to facepalm ... having previously given up on banging its head against the wall ... no matter HOW many times its mother says "Go bang your head it'll feel so good when you stop."

No satisfaction btw, still NO idea of the actual answer, and I'd have to give a NO vote to mule as, NEARLY by definition, a mule can engender no progeny! (Yes, yes, some females do, but my Centaur(s) are all male thank you.)

(But SERIOUSLY) thanks for playing and I still hope someone can help!)

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