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Zed #192028 07/23/10 07:17 AM
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Yes, but it is also two words sort of. Like faux-filet or faux- monnayeur.

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Originally Posted By: Avy
Sometimes one might be credited with more intelligence than one actually has. What could appear as feigning ignorance might be the real thing.
laugh Yes I got it. Nice!
Faldage's phrases look to me like and Escher etching in words. I'm still trying to get it.

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Yeah. I did not understand faldage's phrase (nice aliteration) either. Mine is what it says. Sometimes people stamp 'intelligent' on your forehead which is then a pain to live upto. If you have a genuine 'duh' in your brain and you speak it out, they think you are feigning it because your forehead says 'intelligent.' I am not talking about me of course. My forehead says 'certified stupid' and I like that. At least I got some place to go. (Off topic question - is there a word for aliteration like faldage's phrase and certified stupid - where the F sound comes from two different phonemes?)

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Nah, I'd rather analize the sentence:

"Of course having a quality is not the same thing as pretending that you don't have the quality."

We must faux-filet it: Take off the personal baggage en simplify the unnecessary use of two different articles and other superfluous details.

- having a quality is not the same thing as having a quality which you pretend not to have -

Looks like an empty comparison to me as in both cases you still have the quality.

A cleverly veiled platitude? grin
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I remember someone posting something that I took to mean that, e.g., feigning ignorance meant having knowledge. My simple line was meant as a counter to this definition. In this case, to be more specific, knowing something is not the same thing as pretending you don't know it.

Of course, now I can't find the line I was responding to.

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I was just playing a bit with it. smile Something in the direction of:

A child is a young humang being.
A young human being is a child.

An willow is a tree.
A tree is not necessarily a willow. Or such.

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Originally Posted By: tsuwm

Fully 88 percent [of the cited panel] accept disingenuous with the meaning "playfully insincere, faux-naïf," as in the example "I don't have a clue about late Beethoven!" he said. The remark seemed disingenuous, coming from one of the world's foremost concert pianists.

I see the example given as, clearly, one of "feigning ignorance," albeit not deceitfully. I also agree with zed and think "feigning ignorance" could be a literal translation of "faux naïf" - falsely naive. How is that not so?

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Originally Posted By: BranShea
having a quality is not the same thing as having a quality which you pretend not to have -

Looks like an empty comparison to me as in both cases you still have the quality.


I agree that one has the quality in both cases, but that hardly makes it an empty comparison. The point is that one individual is being deceptive, the other is not.


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Ja, I think I looked at it from the quality's point of vieuw. I overlooked the individuals and the blissed summertime is dimming my wit if ever I had it. ;~)

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in the old days in auto racing, it was known as "sand-bagging".


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