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no joke; simply dangle the weighted line coursing thru the loops on the rod and notice the angle at the junction of the line-rod tip! This is why fishermen are referred to as anglers

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no joke ... This is why fishermen are referred to as anglers

Well, if serious, your etymology is quite simply wrong. Fishermen are called anglers because the Middle English verb for 'to fish' was angelen, and that verb came from the Old English noun for hook, as mentioned in this thread above. This predates the borrowing of Norman aungle, originally 'corner (of a room)' into Middle English. This French word goes back to roughly the same PIE root as the angle 'hook' word, but the routes these two words took is different. The angle is one in the hook, and not in the rod and line.


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no joke; simply dangle the weighted line coursing thru the loops on the rod and notice the angle at the junction of the line-rod tip! This is why fishermen are referred to as anglers

Well, fishermen who catch fish by throwing a spear, the spear makes a hook with the water surface at some stage, but they are not called anglers.

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The same angle is the source of "England", apparently because the Angles were from an area of land shaped like a fishhook - the Angeln district of Schleswig-Holstein.

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And the story of Augustine, for whom the Canterbury Cathedral
is named, upon seeing blond blue-eyed slave children in Rome's
Forum, asked who they were. Being told they were Angles from
the land of Anglo Saxons, he replied: "Not Angles, but Angels".


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Well, if serious, your etymology is quite simply wrong.


My etymology is the same as yours! Of course etymologic origins are essential technical aspects to be considered; however, they are not the exclusive method for assessing the evolution of word meanings. Fundamental considerations include more empiric criteria similar to simple associative applications like the angle created by at the junction of the rod and line.
The common man contributes to the evolution of word meaning, but seldom consults etymologic sources!

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My etymology is the same as yours!

Well, I looked at both of them, and they are substantially different, but whatever floats your boat ...

Of course etymologic origins are essential technical aspects to be considered; however, they are not the exclusive method for assessing the evolution of word meanings. Fundamental considerations include more empiric criteria similar to simple associative applications like the angle created by at the junction of the rod and line.

I see. So we just get to make stuff up while sitting in our armchair contemplating the future. OK, works for me. The etymology of eye is the two lidded eyes on either side of the nose.

The common man contributes to the evolution of word meaning, but seldom consults etymologic sources!

Sorry, I obviously mistook you for somebody seriously interested in etymologies of words. My bad.


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Actually, you quite missed the point confused ; etymological searches are always informative and relevant; however, in and of themselves, they are not all-encompassing dogma when considering the evolving use of terms / phrases, particularly allowing for colloquialisms, regionalisms, connotations and the more than occasional malaprop.
It seems that you would do well to delve into lexicography in more depth; I'd suggest starting with innovative concepts promoted by PW Hanks, who focuses on, amongst other aspects, convention v. creativity and innovation with regard to meaning.
Glad for the discourse; sorry if you're torqued, dismayed bewildered or even the least bit intransigent.

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I see. So we just get to make stuff up while sitting in our armchair contemplating the future. OK, works for me. The etymology of eye is the two lidded eyes on either side of the nose. laugh

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