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I decided to take my underlying question regarding this subject to Jesse Sheidlower, Principal North American Editor of The Oxford English Dictionary..
> Jesse, > > I'm passing this along because the ultimate citation seems > to warrant asking the following: as you guys make your > online updates, are you in some cases simply dropping some > words? and if so, how does this affect the *historical value > of OED? just wondering..
No. No words are being removed from the OED, precisely because it would affect its historical value. Often this does give rise to problems, where we come across something that probably shouldn't have been included originally, or where a definition is clearly based on a misinterpretation of what was then more limited evidence. But we don't remove these.
> (I do realize this may not be a good example of what I'm > getting at, since the word in question can still be found > under the 'see' headword, but still..)
Right, this particular example doesn't demonstrate this issue. We _do_ revise entries in a way that might give the appearance of something being removed--combining two senses into one, for example, or taking things that were once headwords and subsuming them into other entries--but nothing goes away completely.
Best,
Jesse
-joe (I have an advanced degree in name-dropping) friday
NB: in the case of 'zyxt', a Find Word now comes up empty, whereas a full text search comes up with the variant under the headword 'see' and a citation under 'foleant' (zyxt thou foleant)
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No words are being removed from the OED, precisely because it would affect its historical value.
Yes, which explains the dictionary's previous name, A New English Dictionary on Historical Principles, or the NED.
Nuncle (I once ate at Mexican restaurant in Oakland with Jesse S., Dave Wilton, Mark Liberman, and others) Knucklehead
[Addendum: About the form xyst, I feel certain that it was probably promoted in the OED1 to lemma-hood to beat out some other, less interesting word, from the spot of last word in the OED. Vary few of the other strange spellings and forms of have their own entries, so why zyst? Maybe the editor of that final fascicle was Kentish.]
Jay (Jus' speculatin') Beaux
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Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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OMG--you called Jesse Sheidlower, et. al., you guys?!?!
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No need to shun a bit of name-dropping in a crusade against word-dropping.
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