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Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Interesting observation.
It stems from an observation that one usually qualifies a noun or noun phrase, it's usually to add information. So both chick flicks and action movies somehow depart from the prototypical motion picture. That is based on the assumption that what one is trying to do when uttering or writing something what one is up to is communication. Not only action flicks, but science fiction, horror, slasher, sports, spy, art flicks, and westerns, romantic comedies, musicals, documentaries, etc. (These are somehow all different from just the plain old movies.)
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Both and prove my point. Movies designed mainly to appeal to males do not need to be so designated because the male point of view is considered the norm.
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Yes, Zed you are correct. The male POV is the DEFAULT POV for all people in this patriarchy, not just for women. Oh, boy, or girl should I say, I can see this is going to be an uphill battle for others to understand.
I suggest that everyone go to a site called "The Masculine Mystique". It is written by a straight white male, just in case anyone doesn't trust my "feminine" POV. I also suggested Feminism 101, but I can tell that nobody had gone to that site from the responses.
Thank you Zed, for carefully reading my post. This is a huge subject, and difficult to explain in a few sentences.
Why I am surprised at this point in my life, that other people do not realize that we live in a hierarchical, racist patriarchy, I am not sure. For me, it is a glaringly obvious fact of life.
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The first 25 Male Privileges from a list of 56 Male Privileges, From the " The Masculine Mystique." If you won't go to the web site, I'll bring it to you. Remember, you asked!
See number 6 for the short form answer to your question. I highly recommend Feminism 101. Don't worry, you will still be male even after you go to that site.
The List of Male Privileges
1. Rape -Destroying the entire life of another human being. The evil root of all male privilege.
2. Ownership of Women's Bodies - From prostitution, to the "pro-life" movement, to the marginalization of women's self-defense, to the conservative fight against HPV vaccination, women are subject to a complete gender apartheid.
3. Prostitution - The institutionalization of rape through a global network of physical and economic violence.
4. Privilege of Violence Against Women -Men are allowed to use violence to both defend themselves and to hurt women. Women are not allowed to use violence in self-defense. When assaulted by a man, women are expected to acquiesce completely to the assault, never seek retribution, and die quietly.
5. All Women Are Sexual Prospects - All women, without exception, are part of the Sex Class ruled by men, to be subject to dehumanization and gender terrorism.
6. Male Gaze - Men's sexual perspective, embraced by society, normalizes the dehumanization of women and girls, and inoculates men from being dehumanized themselves.
7. Pornography - Men are provided with widespread access to prostitution-based propaganda that promotes their privilege to destroy the lives of women. Pornography has now spread to mainstream culture, further cementing women into the role of the Sex Class.
8. Privilege to Make the Rules - The rulers write the laws and history, and so men write laws and revise history to benefit themselves at the expense of women.
9. Men Own Religion - Men craft the majority's perception of the universe to normalize anything they do as divine and good. The lead supreme beings in the vast majority of religions are male.
10. Marriage - The purpose of marriage, as an institution, is to sanctify the sexual ownership of women by men. This has been the purpose of marriage for thousands of years, and for the vast majority marriages on Earth that purpose continues to this day.
11. Privilege to Define Everything - Men's perspectives and values are the only valid ones in society. The intentions of men's actions are more important to society than the actual effects their actions have on women. Men's ideas about women supersede women's reality. Men can declare themselves feminist when they decide to be, or even oppressed when convenient. Men's claims will be taken as fair and objective, and will remain uncontested even when they make no sense. [Thanks to Varnish Eater, acidbill]
12. Privilege to Define Women - Men are the ones who routinely analyze, define, and judge women's lives. Any discussion taken from an actual women's perspective is seen as "unorthodox". Men can define or scapegoat women however they like. From hysteria to insecurity, men can project their own worst qualities onto women and blame women for their own oppression. Women must constantly explain and defend their own thoughts and actions to men when they fail to conform to men's expectations. Even then, men can reinterpret women's explanations as they see fit. [Thanks to Varnish Eater]
13. Privilege of Not Being Judged - From not being criticized for their mistakes, to the sanctity of their personal choice, to neglecting their families, to getting away with murder, judgment is always restrained when it comes to men's actions. Men can be criminals without punishment, vicious without scorn or loss of social status, and failures without fear of rebuke.
14. Men are the Default Gender - Men are considered by society to be the default gender. Men are rarely ever targeted, stereotyped, or held liable because of their gender. This default status is the mental framework used by society to ignore male privilege and male favoritism. Men are simply seen as human. Women, on the other hand, are seen as the exception to the all the male-centric norms of society. Gender stereotypes are always present in the perception of women.
15. Privilege of Unquestioned Majority - Men are treated as if they were the only gender on the planet. Men can assume to speak for the majority, and their declarations are automatically assumed to have the backing of the majority. Despite being only half the population, men are given the overwhelming majority of resources, from medical research dollars, to media attention, to political representation. Any attempts to advocate for equal representation of women is regarded as unorthodox and exceptional.
16. Privilege of Women's Invisibility - When convenient, men can treat women as if they don't even exist. Men use this privilege to take credit for women's work, to claim opportunities and resources for themselves by ignoring competition from women, and to ensure that the murders of women remain unsolved and undocumented. Men use "gender blindness" to ignore the oppression of women altogether. Any attempt to fight the abuse and oppression of women will be ignored unless men are similarly oppressed, at which point aiding the oppressed men will get priority care.
17. Primacy of Men's Comfort - From planning family vacations to deciding what distant suburb to live in, all decisions are evaluated by men's comfort levels. Even decisions made for women's safety must not infinge upon men's comfort levels. Women must make whatever personal and financial sacrifices are necessary to meet the decisions arrived at by men. All attempts at ending the abuse and oppression of women will be vehemently opposed if they inhibit men's comfort levels in any way.
18. Freedom From Harassment - Men's bodies are not aggressively sexualized. Men can expect to not be sexually harassed, to not be concerned about phallic-looking objects, and can legally remove their shirts in public. [Thanks to Anonymous]
19. Privilege of Safe Sex - Men are the initiators of sex, and can enjoy sexual privacy and no liability for their sexual history. Even Hugh Hefner's sex is private when he wants it to be. In contrast, women are the targets of sexual advances, bear the entire burden of contraception and pregnancy, and are judged based on men's sexual perception of them. [Thanks to Anonymous]
20. Privilege to Speak - From blogging, to politics, to stand-up comedy, men have the privilege to speak publicly, with authority, and without harassment for doing so. From birth, women are taught to be deferential when men interrupt, to not interrupt while men are speaking, to accept verbal abuse without complaint, and to be quiet in general. Men expect women to listen to them at all times, even if said women are their bosses or are busy doing something else. Women's voices are dismissed as irritating, and women who speak for themselves in public, or who publicly contradict men, are met with hostility from society. [Thanks to wiggles]
21. Privilege to End Debate - Men can use their tyranny of speech to quiet everyone else.
22. Privilege of Having No Privileges - When the abuse of male privilege becomes uncomfortable for men, they can choose to be oblivious of their privilege. Men can choose to be oblivious of some or all of their privileges, as is convenient. Men can claim parity where none exists, claim oppression whenever it is useful, and deflect any resentment which might impinge upon their social status. Men can even blame women for the harms they suffer under male privilege. [Thanks to Varnish Eater, acidbill]
23. Privilege of Relative Safety - Men don't live their entire lives in fear. There is no gender terrorism for men. Men can risk dropping their guard, or being alone. [Thanks to Anonymous]
24. The Inviolate Male Body - A man's body is his castle. Men enjoy the sovereignty of self. They can expect to not be physically violated when attacked.
25. Privilege of Space - All spaces are by default men's spaces. Men are allowed men-only spaces without complaint, and can expect entry into almost all women-only spaces.
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at the risk of violating nos. 8, 11, 13, 17, 20 and 21 (at a minimum); I must say that this thread has definitely gone political.
-ron obvious
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Yes, how hard was this to answer? Wikipedia has an article, and I tried to answer, as well as suggest a few well chosen, excellent blogs, but I don't think he really wants to know the answer!
I fixed that by posting from "The Masculine Mystique" and excellent and thoroughly researched blog that is written, (gasp!) by a MAN. Maybe he will read that, as anything with the word feminism in the title is apparently instant death to even "gaze" at, internalized male gaze or not.
Please pardon my jaded sense of humor. "I'm being as nice as I can." Elvis Costello.
This is just a great lyric, the fact that he wrote it adds nothing to this discussion!
Excellent links, and thanks.
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Hah! Great point Zed.
Privilege 14 in a list of 56 Male Privileges that everyone takes for granted in a patriarchy, specifically America's.
14. Men are the Default Gender - Men are considered by society to be the default gender. Men are rarely ever targeted, stereotyped, or held liable because of their gender. This default status is the mental framework used by society to ignore male privilege and male favoritism. Men are simply seen as human. Women, on the other hand, are seen as the exception to the all the male-centric norms of society. Gender stereotypes are always present in the perception of women.
From "The Masuline Mystique."
"Movies?" Yup.
Everything? Yup.
This is just dawning on these "Wordsmiths" now? We are in just as much trouble as I thought.
Has anyone noticed that things aren't going so well in this unsustainable, violent insane society?
Thank you for your thoughts, Zed.
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