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#184942 05/26/09 05:46 AM
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Hi Wordsters,

Someone asked me to answer the following question and I'm not certain of the right response. I would opt for the second option. Do you agree?

Change to make correct:
“Between you and I, its right, they’re no mistakes’.”

Corrected version:
“Between you and me, it’s right. There are no mistakes.”
“Between you and me, it’s right; there are no mistakes.”
“Between you and me, it’s right – there are no mistakes.”

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Seems to me there are many correct ways.
Maybe the second isn't.
This maybe too?
"Between you and me.. it's right, there are no mistakes".

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Looks like a style manual question. I'd say they're all correct but if you're submitting to a publication, the style manual of the publication may state a preference for one over the other.

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Thanks for the help!

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Wordsters --I like that! Welcome, John.

Also--there're might be considered okay. Informally.

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Originally Posted By: Jackie


Also--there're might be considered okay. Informally.


But it's hard to say. And, FWIW, the same construction (or at least constructions that fill the same slot) in other IE languages tend to be singular regardless of the number of the object. German es gibt, not sie geben. The Spanish hay is derived from an expression with the singular ha. The French il-y-a.

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There're is a contraction of there are, but how do you pronounce
'there're' . There'rrrrrr?

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Just my point. And one reason why you so rarely hear it. As if to prove me wrong there are 589,000,000 Google hits but the first three are comments about its rareness.

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but how do you pronounce 'there're'?

/'ðɝɚ/


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Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
but how do you pronounce 'there're'?

/'ðɝɚ/


and, I'm very sorry to have to ask, how do you say /'ðɝɚ/?!
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(ð'ð)sceptical. (ɚ'ɚ)mysterious. /'ðɝɚ/?!

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Originally Posted By: tsuwm
I'm very sorry to have to ask, how do you say /'ðɝɚ/?!
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Just like it's spelled.

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how do you pronounce 'there're'?
Use the "th" sound as in then or...there.(!) And "ur" as in cur or fur. And "er" as in lure. Thurer. Sometimes ther-er.
I actually hear it and say it fairly often.

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Thurer , I can say that, no furder pwoblem.

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Thur?! I'd pronounce it <thairur> with the stress on the first syllable and the second syllable kinda like Jackie's first syllable. This is pretty much the way Nuncle z spelled it.

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Originally Posted By: Faldage
Thur?! I'd pronounce it <thairur> with the stress on the first syllable and the second syllable kinda like Jackie's first syllable. This is pretty much the way Nuncle z spelled it.


agreed.


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I'm very sorry to have to ask, how do you say /'ðɝɚ/?

Obviously, as in the General American contraction there're. But seriously, Ron, /ðɝ/ is pretty much there and /ɚ/ is the rhotacized vowel of bird. I calculate that I give it about 1.5 syllables.


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Just like it's spelled.

That is one of the advantages of learning the IPA and using it rather than an ad hoc phony logical English spelling derived "system". I was talking about accents once with a non-linguist friend, and he asserted that he did not have one: he spoke "just like in the dictionary". The jig is up, and yet it reels.


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Huh? But nobody said thur. Just thurer.( with the stress on the first syllable )

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Originally Posted By: BranShea
Huh? But nobody said thur. Just thurer.( with the stress on the first syllable )


Faldo is questioning thurur (which does seem excessively suthurn), as opposed to thairur

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I'd pronounce more like 'Thearuh'. Suhthen Kiwi. smile

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Oh yes, we definitely say thur. Sometimes.

Suhthen Kiwi. ! Is it fried? wink

Faldage, maybe I'll call you sometime so you can hear me say thurer...

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Originally Posted By: Jackie
Oh yes, we definitely say thur. Sometimes.

Suhthen Kiwi. ! Is it fried? wink

Faldage, maybe I'll call you sometime so you can hear me say thurer...


You got about a fifty-fifty chance of getting our answering machine vs getting our voice mail.

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Right, tsuwm. VERY informally.

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Originally Posted By: Faldage
Looks like a style manual question. I'd say they're all correct but if you're submitting to a publication, the style manual of the publication may state a preference for one over the other.

Faldage, you're dead right. Publishers have their own preferences. E.g., internal thoughts of a character: in italics, or in quotation marks. Nit-picky, but important to the publisher.

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