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Yesterdays quote for the day:
The artist brings something into the world that didn't exist before, and he does it without destroying something else. -John Updike, writer (1932-2009)
Both parts of this statement kept me thinking. It all depends on how widely you take the the meaning “artist” ; “did not exist before” and what you understand by “destroying” .
“artist” and “didn’t exist before” :
A knitter who knits an article from a self invented pattern is an artist if you stick to the statement. Anyone molding something out of clay is an artist. Does it have to be proved something that it did not exist before? Is it verifiable?
Second part of the statement: “he does it without destroying something else.”
Michelangelo had a lot of mountain parts demolished to bring all these glorifying marble statues into the world. Michelangelo had nightmares about how to get and transport all that marble. Ivory cutting has been the ruin of many a healthy elephant and ivory rendering animals. For woodcarving you need to damage the wood.
I think Updike must have had only the writer/poet in mind when he made this statement. Writers cause relatively little material damage writing books. Although following the expression that the pen is mightier than the sword, who knows. Reputations and believes can be destroyed by a sharp pen.
Is it strictly observed only the singer and spoken word performing artists who can do without any destroying?
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Thought-provoking remarks, BranShea.
I agree with you that some forms of art do seem to destroy something else in the process. But perhaps something of little value was "destroyed" in order to produce a lovlier, more valuable and longer lasting piece of art?
I would guess that two trees were cut down in order manufacture a couple cellos and a few violins. But think of the beauty and pleasure that results from the instruments! In their new form they could last for hundreds of years - how long would the two trees last?
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Interestingly, I read just this morning about an art exhibit by an installation artist called Marco Evaristti in the town of Kolding in Denmark where the police were called to shut it down for just this reason. The interactive exhibit consisted of goldfish swimming in kitchen blenders. The public could push the button on the blender if they wanted to. Apparently two goldfish had already become bouillabaisse by the time the animal rights people had complained about it!
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There is always some idiot that will push the button.
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I would guess that two trees were cut down in order manufacture a couple cellos and a few violins. But think of the beauty and pleasure that results from the instruments! In their new form they could last for hundreds of years - how long would the two trees last?
Of course we can miss a few trees as long as we replant them and let them grow again. I would miss the cello's and violins too. I looked up Updike and he proves to have been a good quoter in general: A Life in Quotes Though I knew his name, I never read any of his books. On reading The Pook's goldfish story, visual artist seem pretty desparate these days. Poor vision, poor philosophy, only big yelps for public attention. Preferebly causing scandals. Let the music begin.
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Interestingly, I read just this morning about an art exhibit by an installation artist called Marco Evaristti in the town of Kolding in Denmark where the police were called to shut it down for just this reason. The interactive exhibit consisted of goldfish swimming in kitchen blenders. The public could push the button on the blender if they wanted to. Apparently two goldfish had already become bouillabaisse by the time the animal rights people had complained about it! This is pure, unadulterated hypocrisy! I'm sure the Danes eat lots of fish, and don't tell me their capture and death is more humane than a quick blender experience. Is a goldfish somehow exempt because it is kept as a pet? How about an exhibit which would allow the public to kill an ant? Or a fly? Or a wasp? Would the animal rights activists be all over that? Why do goldfish have more "rights" than insects? I'm all for not being cruel and not torturing animals; in fact, I make sure to buy cage-free hen's eggs (yes, I know they still have little space, but it's better than a cage...) and free-range beef, when I can get it, but the actual killing of animals is routine. I realize there are vegans among us, and respect their right to eat what they wish, for whatever reason. I kill lettuce, too...
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I only know what I like... I wouldn't bother to see that exhibit.
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well, there's protest and/or making a statement, and then there's art. sometimes the two can be one and the same.
not in this case.
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Cmon..two. You can keep exhibits of any animal to show how well you raised it ( matter of taste whether you like fringed poodles and manicured cock-a-doodies ) but you can't make a PUSH THE BUTTON TO MASH THE GOLDGFISHES-exhibition item. That's not a matter of hypocrisy. To call it art, that's hypocrisy.
I don't kill and ant nor fly either unless it really bugs me. BTW,I think the ant would survive the blender. And good for him. I am of opinion® ( stole your copyright-bug Etaoin) Looks chique.
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