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Speaking of illusory states incidentally, and while it doesn't bear on the editing of posts as in an earlier thread; I wonder how many of us having switched from Bill to Mac are are experiencing other peculiarities that defy reason and which might eventually detract a whole lot from the latter's reputation

For instance, whilst composing say an email, you happen to be sweeping the cursor around the screen, looking or a word etc, without even clicking; for no apparent reason your document disappears and is replaced by another screen uncalled for and blank though usually it's a window entitled "Entourage Help Home."

Of course you can quickly click it away away by its red dot, restoring whatever you were doing; but my God what an interruption. Am I the only Mac user who encounters annoying glitches such as these

Why am I the only apparent victim
Why don't other Mac users speak up


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it would be the same for me if I were to start using Windows. (ask my girlfriend how I do when I use her computer)

dale, you are getting used to a new system, with new ways of doing things, give yourself, and the mac a chance.


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think about trying to drive a manual transmission in a car, if you had never driven anything but an automatic.

(actually, for me the comparison is quite apt, as I find driving a stick, and my mac, much more fun!)

ymmv.

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eta, there's more than a grain of truth in what you say and your post is comforting but Mac had been touted by many as vastly superior, while at my age it's hard to put up with a whole new set of glitches

Maybe I expect too much. Nonetheless I am gratified by your reassurance

For instance, incidentally, Mac flags misspellings in posts of this sort and provides instant access to other such services like Dictionary, Spelling and Grammar, etc; but having gone to that much trouble why didn't they also provide Synonyms. It's as if your new car had a gas pedal, clutch, and accelerator, but no brake

Your comparison incidentally is apt, while in addition the manual is more reliable (between us Laverne and I have so far spent $10,400 in replacement and repair of our two Blazer automatics. On the other hand, however, Mac seems to require two to five times as many keystrokes to perform any task

No reply necessary; and again your calm, considered reflections constitute a welcome contrast in this world of vast complexity and cross-program interlocking contradictory glitches brimming with mutual recrimination


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One big problem I always had with Macs is that a window is never in full screen mode. Sure, there's a guy up there in the upper right corner that claims to make the window full screen but in reality it doesn't quite do it. The result is that I can be going to slide the vertical scroll bar to get the window to go up or down and I miss by just the least little bit and click on the window behind the one I'm working with and suddenly there's a whole new window that I don't really want. It's annoying at best.

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Originally Posted By: Faldage
One big problem I always had with Macs is that a window is never in full screen mode. Sure, there's a guy up there in the upper right corner that claims to make the window full screen but in reality it doesn't quite do it. The result is that I can be going to slide the vertical scroll bar to get the window to go up or down and I miss by just the least little bit and click on the window behind the one I'm working with and suddenly there's a whole new window that I don't really want. It's annoying at best.


I agree with that sentiment, Fald. bugs me, too.


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Me too. Even my IT No. 1 Son is annoyed by that deficiency, and he's not nearly as demanding as I. Sizing sequence clicking green dot should include one full screen


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Windoz has various functions for making the current window *really full screen; i.e., hiding the tool bars (F11 key in the browser, Full Screen view in Word) -- does Mac have anything similar?

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not that I know of. I'm sure there are some third-party things that can do it.

not sure why it's not built-in. seems like a no-brainer to me.


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The green button is a toggle-switch with two positions. One setting is "full screen" (which seems to mean one 8 1/2 by 11 page, no matter how much bigger your monitor might be) and the other is "whatever you had before you hit the green button." Which means if you manually stretch the window to fill the screen you can go back and forth from fullscreen to smaller.

Not quite ideal, but getting a little closer to what you're asking for.

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eta, seems that way to me too, leaving me with a distinctly uncomfortable feeling about the denizens of software. I get the distinct impression that they're a very isolated group who don't communicate much with ordinary folk like you and I...

...though I sense that you may be extraordinary in certain critical ways

As if to punctuate my observation, they have underlined "though" in the above paragraph even though its spelling is apparently OK. Mac habits such as that one are very distracting


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the thing to remember is how you felt when you first started working with computers. they were pretty arcane then, too, and did things in unexpected ways. you are learning an entirely new operating system, and there will be many things that don't work the way you expect them to, and many things you didn't even know you could do. it is an adventure, and best treated that way!

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I love my mac, and express endless frustration when I need to use a windows machine, but I know many people who are equally comfortable in that world. for me, my mac is part of my life, and a windows computer is just a machine.

(yes, I drink heavily of the kool-aid!)


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eta what a remarkably even-tempered fellow are you in this ferment of communal denunciation called the Blogosphere. I am incidentally dalehileman@verizon.net any time you feel the urge to exchange horror stories

It is also interesting to note, incidentally, that Mac apparently doesn't recognize an email address since mine above wasn't flagged in te usual way I had come to expect but then I've been accused of being excessively critical

...while I can't say whether Bill's spellcheck is any more competent but it is appalling to note that Mac didn't recognize "te" above as a possible misspelling for "the"

Some of us gain the impression that the software engineers hate us all. However, we might be wrong, that instead the problem lies in the construction and circuitry of the kind of brain required for that kind of work (present company of course excepted). I imagine they’re deficient in the area which might otherwise serve everyday needs of Man, that even for what we would consider the smallest, most insignificant decision they require a committee meeting

On the morning they discussed the spelling algorithm they argued for hours about the criterion required to select suggested corrections. Finally they took a vote on a compromise rule where a missing letter might be selected on the basis of its keyboard location; that it might qualify if it appeared on the same row or adjacent to one of the correct letters. However, "the" would be rejected because the "h" is both on a different row and one key removed from adjacency

Mac was pretty sure however that "te" might be the misspelling of "et"



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The correct misspelling of "the" is "teh".

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Originally Posted By: dalehileman
it is appalling to note that Mac didn't recognize "te" above as a possible misspelling for "the"


I think where Olly lives "te" actually DOES mean "the".

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Originally Posted By: latishya

I think where Olly lives "te" actually DOES mean "the".


Beat me to it.
Yep, mostly it is a definite article, in some instances. 'Te' can also be a relative pronoun or a particle to be used for emphasis.

But I was also thinking that once a strange word has been added to a dictionary in say, microsoft word, it never appears as a foreign spelling again. Perhaps the application that Dale is using only has a 'spellcheck' and not a 'grammar' suggestee thing. In which case 'Te' or 'teh' are other words. Hey, whatever Dale is using, it ain't a HAL 9000.

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Beat me to it.
Yep, mostly it is a definite article, in some instances.
'Te' can also be a relative pronoun or a particle to be used for emphasis.


'te' has developped to 'too' in this little world, which means emphasis indeed -------- te veel = too many.

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Originally Posted By: olly
Originally Posted By: latishya

I think where Olly lives "te" actually DOES mean "the".


Beat me to it.
Yep, mostly it is a definite article, in some instances. 'Te' can also be a relative pronoun or a particle to be used for emphasis.

Hey I've been to Te Anau. And once knew someone from Te Awamutu. Is that what it means in place names? The definite article? Or does it mean something like 'place' or 'village'?

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Hey, whatever Dale is using, it ain't a HAL 9000.

No, that was the Commodore Amiga. Best computer ever made. Well, okay not quite as smart as HAL, but it was multitasking in colour with WYSIWYG windows and a mouse when the Apple was monochrome and IBMs were running DOS with just a keyboard. What a pity Commodore was run (into the ground) by Mehdi Ali and Microsoft by Bill Gates, and not the other way round. The best marketer, not the best product, will win every time. Twelve years after its demise I'm still mourning. frown

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Originally Posted By: The Pook
Originally Posted By: olly
Originally Posted By: latishya

I think where Olly lives "te" actually DOES mean "the".


Beat me to it.
Yep, mostly it is a definite article, in some instances. 'Te' can also be a relative pronoun or a particle to be used for emphasis.

Hey I've been to Te Anau. And once knew someone from Te Awamutu. Is that what it means in place names? The definite article? Or does it mean something like 'place' or 'village'?


A friend once told me that "te" is the singular definite article in NZ Maori and "nga" is the plural definite article. So "te kiwi" is "the kiwi" and "nga kiwi" is "the kiwis". I don't know anything at all about the other Maori though.

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Originally Posted By: The Pook

Hey I've been to Te Anau. And once knew someone from Te Awamutu. Is that what it means in place names? The definite article? Or does it mean something like 'place' or 'village'?

Te Awamutu means 'The(Te) river(Awa) end(mutu)'. Those famous Aussie brothers, Neil and Tim Finn were born there. wink

Originally Posted By: The Pook

The best marketer, not the best product, will win every time.

Reminds me of the great Betamax/VHS war of the Seventies. Betacam, BetacamSP, and BetacamSX all later variants of Betamax became broadcast standards here for many years. Superseded now by Digital Betacam and various non linear formats.
Blu Ray/HD-DVD was another case where superior marketing won the day.

Originally Posted By: latishya

So "te kiwi" is "the kiwi" and "nga kiwi" is "the kiwis".

Very good Latishya. smile

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Originally Posted By: olly

Blu Ray/HD-DVD was another case where superior marketing won the day.



Most tech reviews I've read agree, but the overwhelming majority of them also say that Blu-Ray is a technically better product than HD-DVD as well, unlike the Beta/VHS thing. I've kept an informal tally of the scores of articles and reviews I read on the subject, and somewhere around 80% say that Blu-Ray won by virtue of its marketing but also say that it was the better product too.

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I started with the comment, Latishya what an excellent name. Then out of curiosity I clicked on the happyface but nothing happened so I tried the link, where the profile was essentially blank. Disappointed, I returned to page 3 of the thread, where my comment had been deleted

Not to belabor the discussion but we seem to have wandered from the point, which asked whether any others might be as disappointed with Mac and the rest of the Digital World as I


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Well 'your' television ads are funny, even while neglecting an important point: XP can still be had. Define you a machine by its operating system, hrm?


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Originally Posted By: Aramis
Well 'your' television ads are funny, even while neglecting an important point: XP can still be had. Define you a machine by its operating system, hrm?


Why thank you Aramis Essentially the Blogosphere is divided into two camps, those who are amused by the whole thing and them who are angry about nearly everything; somewhat akin to left and the right of politics except possibly for the Libertarians who are schizophrenic. Clearly you are a a member of the first which is manifestly in the minority but should be encouraged to multiply lest we dissolve in a quagmire of recrimination

Your important point is well taken but there's no way I could return to XP since my IT No. 1 Son would then refuse to help me when I encounter a problem

As for defining a machine in terms of its software, yes I'm sure to some extent it does but I can't explain how; that's the wherewithal of my No. 1 Son and I'd ask him to expand upon the point but he's so sick of my problems that he doesn't much respond to my emails any more

... perhaps because I am excessively prolix

Thanks again, and in that connection please ask me about the Truman Show currently having surfaced on Basic Satellite, while I am dalehileman@verizon.net


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