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Admin: This post not directly language or words so feel free to relegate it to the appropriate forum if needbe
Well I finally caved in and ditched my PC for a Mac. My first impression: Mac is of course immune to viruses, while in some applications execution time is indeed faster. However, more keystrokes seem to be required for almost any task
For example, in the PC all personal taskbar editing macros in Word (that is, ones you add yourself such as Delete word, Change case, Spacebar, Backspace, Return, etc etc etc) are transferred automatically to Outlook for use editing email and the like. However, in Mac only the standard set (BIUT, align left, center, etc) are available in Entourage (Mac's version of Outlook)
Thus for the typical clod (me) editing a lengthy email in Entourage requires at least twice if not five times as many keystrokes with of course continual resort to the keyboard; whereas using Outlook you could lean back, doing much of the editing using your mouse with a single click
Of course you can always write all your letters in Word, then send or cut-paste them to Entourage. But this process excessively complicates the process as often it would be necessary to shift a draft back and forth between the two programs
I am sure there's a way to transfer those personal macros from Word to Entourage but it's no doubt a comparatively involved process and even my highly-remunerated aerospace IT offspring is unable to do it. Thus all comments appreciated, especially helpful ones--thanks most kindly
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My first impression: Mac is of course immune to viruses, I hope for your sake that you don't really believe that. There are a lot less viruses and other malware written for Mac OSes, mostly becausre the potential target base is so muxh smaller. As the number of Macs grows, so does the amount of malware written for it. There are some nasties out there just for Macs, and if you do trust in Mac's "immunity" you will be disappointed.
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Hi Dale, try this Macdisk I do suspect however that you will soon be directing your derived angst from one bespectacled billionaire to another. 
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My first impression: Mac is of course immune to viruses, I hope for your sake that you don't really believe that. There are a lot less viruses and other malware written for Mac OSes, mostly becausre the potential target base is so muxh smaller. As the number of Macs grows, so does the amount of malware written for it. There are some nasties out there just for Macs, and if you do trust in Mac's "immunity" you will be disappointed. immune, no, but much more resistant, yes. the underlying architecture of the Mac OS is much less vulnerable to attacks and malware than Windows. that is not to say that macs never have problems, of course not. I don't use Entourage dale, so I'm no help there, but I find Mail to be a very good program. there are other possible solutions to your macro hopes. check over at www.versiontracker.comamd welcome to the club!
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olly thank you kindly for that link. I would ensconce it amongst my Faves but in Mac I haven't yet learned how
Lat: Thank you for that warning. However I am assured that so long as you don't open suspicious files, especially attachments, that as eta says, Mac is extremely resistant to viruses and the like
eta, once more thank you for your welcome as well as your input. My very helpful, highly remunerated and competent aerospace IT No. 1 Son was unable to successfully install Mail and so I have to use Entourage, which as you must know is mac's version of Outlook
Incidentallly for every advantage of Mac there seems to be a drawback. For example, Entourage gives me an instant spellcheck in posts such as this one where Outlook didn't. However, Mac falls down in the editing department. For instance I find I am unable to highlight then drag a word or phrase and instead have to laboriously cut-and-paste
Thank you too for that link which I will pass along to my No. 1 Son in the hope that he might be able to use it somehow to transfer my taskbar macros from Word
Admin thank you for leaving this thread where it is and will therefore get more attention than if you dropped it into one of the more obscure forums
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Mail is already installed in every new mac, you just need to set up your mail accounts. I have POP, IMAP, and gmail etc., accounts in my Mail. works great. but I know of others that prefer Entourage, so, ymmv.
what does Entourage have to do with posting at AWAD? and my posts get spellchecked as I type. I can also do highlight and drag, even in the Quick Reply box that I'm using right now.
give yourself some time to learn the ins-and-outs of a new system. your are to be commended for doing so!
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"what does Entourage have to do with posting at AWAD?"
I presume it's Entourage that prevents me from highlight-drag in AWAD
" ...and my posts get spellchecked as I type."
So do mine, which is a distinct improvement using Mac over Bill
"I can also do highlight and drag, even in the Quick Reply box that I'm using right now."
That's probably because you're using Mail not Entourage, the latter surviving from Bill's domain and probably distinctly inferior in many ways
"...give yourself some time to learn the ins-and-outs of a new system. your are to be commended for doing so!"
Why thank you eta; it's rare to get a sincere complement in this iniquitous den of sidebar adversary and hotbed of mutual recrimination. Even my technically trained No. 1 Son, God love him, drags me over the coals for my near-senile inability to cope with the New World
...while my No. 2 Son, bless his soul, understands my confusion because he feels about the Digital Realm much as I do in my near-senility
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you're welcome, dale! and happy birthday? I see a little birthday cake near your name!
I use a browser such as Safari (I use Camino) to view AWAD, not a mail program like Entourage or Mail. actually, I'm not sure how you would use a mail program to access AWAD.
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eta, are you and daleh both referring to Wordsmith Talk when you refer to AWAD?
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eta, are you and daleh both referring to Wordsmith Talk when you refer to AWAD?
-ron o. good question, t. yes, I am referring to this site. from dale's penultimate post: For example, Entourage gives me an instant spellcheck in posts such as this one where Outlook didn't. (emphasis mine)
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but he could be getting responses to his original post via email, yes?
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but he could be getting responses to his original post via email, yes? can you respond to the board from within a mail program?
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you're welcome, dale! and happy birthday? I see a little birthday cake near your name!
****Why, thank you. I can't imagine what I have done to deserve such longevity in my 79th year
I use a browser such as Safari (I use Camino) to view AWAD, not a mail program like Entourage or Mail. actually, I'm not sure how you would use a mail program to access AWAD. ***Now that you mention it, neither do I. It's all perplexing
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but he could be getting responses to his original post via email, yes? Hi tsu. No, I am still in a state of dire confusion as to why Mac doesn't let me highlight and drag
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but he could be getting responses to his original post via email, yes? Hi tsu. No, I am still in a state of dire confusion as to why Mac doesn't let me highlight and drag where are you trying to highlight/drag? within a response here on the Board, or within Entourage? and why are you in Entourage if you are trying to post here? just trying to square away all the possibilities. :¬ )
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eta: Thank you for your patience. My confusion owes partly to my advanced age perhaps approaching senility and partly to assumptions based on my galloping ignorance of the digital world. I had assumed that Mac was in charge of the editing rules within a response such as this and since Entourage is Mac's version of Microsoft's Outlook (while editing rules in the latter are derived although not necessarily transferable from Mac's version of Microsoft Word), I blamed Mac for the apparent glitch. But your post suggests that the editing rules here are instead set not by Bill or Mac but by AWAD and that my apparent difficulty is due to an unfamiliarity with WS' particular algorithm and that I'm just simply doing something wrong
Thanks also to the rest of you in your valiant attempts to deal with my incipient Alzheimer's. However, if anyone could suggest an easy way to transfer personal taskbar editing macros from Word to Entourage I'd be most grateful
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dale, can you tell me which browser (Safari, FireFox, something else) you are using to access the Wordsmith Board (to read this post, e.g.)?
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dale, can you tell me which browser (Safari, FireFox, something else) you are using to access the Wordsmith Board (to read this post, e.g.)? Safari Bookmarks. Thank you again for your kind interest
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dale, can you tell me which browser (Safari, FireFox, something else) the Wordsmith Board (to read this post, e.g.)? Safari. Thank you again for your kind interest Dale, I used the Safari broswer (pc version) and AWAD editor to highlite and drag the bolded phrase from within eta's post. I assume this can be done with the Mac version as well.
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dale, can you tell me which browser (Safari, FireFox, something else) the Wordsmith Board (to read this post, e.g.)? Safari. Thank you again for your kind interest Dale, I used the Safari broswer (pc version) and AWAD editor to highlite and drag the bolded phrase from within eta's post. I assume this can be done with the Mac version as well.strangely enough, it cannot. it works fine in Camino (a browser that I prefer in most cases to any other). I'm even having trouble right-clicking a word in Safari. strange. I don't remember this problem. /off to do a bit more research...
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eta thank you again for your support. I was beginning to think I was living in some kind of illusory mental state brought about as an early symptom of Alzheimer's. Note to oldsters contemplating the switch from Bill to Mac:
Incidentally in sheer frustration I acquired a book entitled "Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard" hoping to find something about the acquisition of personal taskbar editing macros in Entourage; but surprise, "Macros" didn't even appear in the index. Or maybe Mac calls it something else. So I intend to slog my way through this volume til I know as much about Mac as I did about windows, not really all that much. I expect it will take a while but I just recently learned that at age 78 I can expect to love another 20 years; so I expect just as I reach that plateau that one evening I will doze off waking up next morning dead
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well, dale, a bit of research has paid off. you CAN drag-and-drop in Safari. the trick is, once you have double-clicked, or drag-selected the words you want to move, to hold on the word a bit longer than one would think was necessary. so, once the word/words are highlighted, click-hold for a count of two before you try to drag.
give it a try!
(I will be the first to admit that I think this is a bit wonky.)
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Long's we're admitting stuff I'll admit that my dispreference for Macs is based on an early ('80s) experience. I was all alone at work and tried to boot up our, what was it? Apple II? All I got was a little anarchist's bomb. No explanation, not even a geek-friendly Error a7ec97d0 @ ff00deadbeef. Just the little anarchist's bomb. When someone who knew what was going on came back from lunch I found that I had a non-boot disk in the floppy drive. Of course the Mac didn't have any little button to push to get the floppy disc out, you would click on some icon on the screen and choose Eject from the drop down menu. At least that's what you would do if the system had booted up properly. Failing a proper boot, to get the floppy to eject you had to hold down AppleFlower-shift-ctrl-M-F3 or something like that while simultaneously powering up the machine. Never mind that I didn't have any hands left to power up the machine with after all three and both feet were tied up holding down all those keys. In the words of the Wise Woman of Wasilla, thanks, but no thanks.
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heh
it ain't quite like that now, though there are still some funky key commands!
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Wull ... For one thing, you don't need a boot floppy disc in the drive to boot up any more. This was back in the paleolithic. It's just hard to overcome these early traumas. And it's not like Mac is the only way to avoid the Evil Empire. In fact you can go Mac and still be in bed with Darth Gates.
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AppleFlower-shift-ctrl-M-F3
Hmm. And, Ctrl-Alt-Delete, like the language gene, is hard-wired into human DNA. Snork! My favorite non-obvious, arcane, computational ritual has to be getting a Unix machine (Sun) to recognize a CD-ROM that had been inserted. (Let's not even imagine how to eject it once you want to.) I have fortunately forgotten it, but the first time you did, required root privileges, editing the /etc/fstab file, and restarting the NFS daemon. I had to RTFM for that one.
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eta thank you fr that hint and I will try it; though I agree it's kooky as hell
However, returning to my original post I am wondering if anyone misses their personal taskbar editing macros in Entourage as I find it had to believe that anyone doing a substantial amount of writing wouldn't raise hell about having to revert to the keyboard
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