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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 3 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 Re: nonetheless BranShea #179078 09/10/08 01:54 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Ok, lemme think a minute; trying to rephrase tsuwm's Dickens ref. I believe "nonetheless" refers to whatever the speaker meant (an action, a feeling, etc.) going on at none the less strength despite the situation being less optimal than what might be desired. Does that help, or is it wrong/unclear? Faldage--is this something of the sense you sensed? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: nonetheless Jackie #179081 09/10/08 08:56 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Sounds sensible. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: nonetheless AnnaStrophic #179145 09/18/08 12:55 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,027 Switzerland wsieber old hand wsieber old hand Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,027 Switzerland Sorry, Anna, to pick a nit: nichtsdestoweniger is the correct word. It does share a lack of logic with nonetheless The corresponding term in French is néanmoins - probably just as obscure. Last edited by wsieber; 09/18/08 12:57 PM. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: nonetheless wsieber #179148 09/18/08 02:16 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York Of course, Dr Weissbier. I was thinking of "nevertheless," which also shares the same lack of logic! (nice to see you, btw) Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: nonetheless tsuwm #179150 09/18/08 03:20 PM Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 35 New Yorker F Fauve newbie Fauve newbie F Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 35 New Yorker The defintion that makes the most sense to me is: http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/nevertheless nevertheless - WordNet (r) 2.1 (2005) : nevertheless adv 1: despite anything to the contrary (usually following a concession); "although I'm a little afraid, however I'd like to try it"; "while we disliked each other, nevertheless we agreed"; "he was a stern yet fair master"; "granted that it is dangerous, all the same I still want to go" [syn: however, nevertheless, withal, still, yet, all the same, even so, nonetheless, notwithstanding] The [/concession] aspect is the part of the definition that makes the most sense to me. Seems that many idioms get taken for granted over the years. I appreciated the question and the opportunity to think about it. Thanks Janis and everyone for all the answers. BTW, I'm very new to the world of code, irregardless and nevertheless, I'm going to give it a try here and hope you'll forgive me for experimenting. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter IRREGARDLESS! Fauve #179160 09/18/08 07:46 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: IRREGARDLESS! AnnaStrophic #179161 09/18/08 08:56 PM Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 876 western NY twosleepy old hand twosleepy old hand Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 876 western NY I HATE THAT "WORD"!!!!!! and I hate very few words...sorry for the peeve-out... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: IRREGARDLESS! twosleepy #179163 09/18/08 11:29 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803  Originally Posted By: twosleepy I HATE THAT "WORD"!!!!!! and I hate very few words...sorry for the peeve-out... Which word is that? Nevertheless? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: IRREGARDLESS! Faldage #179164 09/18/08 11:48 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass  Originally Posted By: Faldage  Originally Posted By: twosleepy I HATE THAT "WORD"!!!!!! and I hate very few words...sorry for the peeve-out... Which word is that? Nevertheless? please note new subject.. 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