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The lunar misson is pretty good value for money considering what the ISS trips already cost.
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It depends what you mean by 'commercial' I suppose. If you mean you can pay for it if you have the money, then obviously now. Richard Branson is already offering it. But since even international jet travel is prohibitively expensive for probably 80 or 90% of people on the planet, I don't consider even that to have completely arrived commercially yet. So, probably never, apart from the most wealthy. And I consider us Westerners to be in that category. When your average Bangladeshi can save up and go to the moon for the price of a car, maybe then you could consider it 'commercial' in a meaningful worldwide sense.
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It depends what you mean by 'commercial' I suppose. If you mean you can pay for it if you have the money, then obviously now. Richard Branson is already offering it. But he can't deliver it yet, and he's only offering suborbital "up-and-back" jaunts, not orbital stays or true spaceflight.
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"Apply the $980 annual membership dues toward the price of your future spaceflight. Earn credit toward the price of your future spaceflight by participating in other Space Adventures' programs, such as Zero-G flights and Baikonur Launch Tours."
Gee, ain't we all gonna get a perfect and free spaceflight sooner or later? And you don't even need to apply. No need to be speedy about it.
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Let everybody else go; I'm not. If I can't step out for "a breath of fresh", I'm not gonna be there. I love science fiction, but don't want to live the space (or underwater) thing. Y'all enjoy! :0)
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I'd have to disagree with Pook's assertion that for something to be commercially available it must be affordable to nearly everyone. I can't see how the word commercial implies any sort of egalitarianism. It simply refers to commerce, which typically involves the exchange of money for goods or services. The poor, by definition, will be limited in the amount of commerce they are able to participate in.
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I'd have to disagree with Pook's assertion that for something to be commercially available it must be affordable to nearly everyone. I can't see how the word commercial implies any sort of egalitarianism. It simply refers to commerce, which typically involves the exchange of money for goods or services. The poor, by definition, will be limited in the amount of commerce they are able to participate in. 'Commerce' also implies everyday marketplace trade. I was emphasising the availability part more than the commercial part I guess.
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It does imply that more than a tiny minority can avail themselves. Saying that space flight is currently "commercially available" is a bit like saying that the top of Everest is a popular tourist destination.
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Add another criterion to the definition of "commercially available"; when space flight will take you somewhere other than right back home. Even present-day ocean cruises have stop-overs in interesting ports. Can you imagine a tourist bus pulling into today's International Space Station and dropping off about 50 tourists to come in and gawk?
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Can you imagine a tourist bus pulling into today's International Space Station and dropping off about 50 tourists to come in and gawk? that'd be cool.
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Can you imagine a tourist bus pulling into today's International Space Station and dropping off about 50 tourists to come in and gawk?
Nope, but I can imagine one of the rogue Scientific ISS modules declaring sovereignty and seceding from the ISS causing the first solar systemic war to end all wars ... Passport control and customs in the airlocks ...
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Can you imagine a tourist bus pulling into today's International Space Station and dropping off about 50 tourists to come in and gawk?
Nope, but I can imagine one of the rogue Scientific ISS modules declaring sovereignty and seceding from the ISS causing the first solar systemic war to end all wars ... Passport control and customs in the airlocks ... That reminds me of a cool B-grade sci-fi novel I read once about the moon colony seceding from earth and throwing rocks at them to defend themselves, since it's all downhill from the moon to the earth. They built big rail guns and hurled huge boulders to earth - it was an interesting (and almost feasible) concept - using rocks against nuclear weapons! Mind you the Palestinians have been doing it for years I guess...
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There are Palestinians on the moon?!? I'm setting up our telescope...
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