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Jose Gros #176990 05/18/08 12:42 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Jose Gros
The poor Onan was given death penalty for a continued related practice....


Onan was condemned not for masturbating but for coitus interruptus with his dead brother's wife.

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Re:a continued related practice..

faldadge, even i got that one (related/relative/sister in law)

it might be (slightly better) as: a discontinued related practice..

(since relations with your widowed sister in law, is discontinued, (and Onan's act was too!)

(or am i over reading?. i think not... --good one Jose!)

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May be quiro stands for the right hand?

In which language? Not in Latin (dexter) or Greek (δεξιος deksios); those words a related to Sanskrit dakshina 'right hand; south'. (There was an ancient Roman god of war named Quirinus, after whom the Quirinal Hill is named.)


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his dead brother's wife

Technically a levirate marriage. I knew a little old lady who called her budgie, Onan, because he was constantly spilling his seed.


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 Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
May be quiro stands for the right hand?

In which language? Not in Latin (dexter) or Greek (δεξιος deksios); those words a related to Sanskrit dakshina 'right hand; south'. (There was an ancient Roman god of war named Quirinus, after whom the Quirinal Hill is named.)


must be related to / confused with recto and verso and quires and all that paginated kind of stuff.

-joe (or not) friday

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I insist to the point of becoming heavy: quiromancia means magic of hands, sive hand or palm reading, a business for wich spanish gypsys had a well known reputation. My spanish academy dictionary puts a greek word in the origin of it (Sorry but I dont know how to access the greek alphabet) Thank you for your attention

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 Originally Posted By: of troy
related practice.


The point is that what he was condemned for wasn't the coitus interruptus. He could've coitus interrupted with anyone else and it would have been no sin. It was the fact that it was his dead brother's wife that made it a sin. It's like saying that doing some target practice at a shooting range is a related practice to armed robbery because you use a gun in both.

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quiromancia means magic of hands, sive hand or palm reading

Ah, I see; my bad. I was fooled by the Spanish orthography. Greek χειρος (kheiros) 'hand'. So, in English, the word might be autochiroeresty.


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chiromancy == palmistry

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Without getting to biblically inclined it was, as zmjezhd pointed out, technically a Levirate marriage which was legal. It was indeed the spilling of the seed for his own means that was the crime.

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