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tsuwm #176339 04/25/08 12:08 PM
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Now you're cheating! I really couldn't care less about college b-ball, but, along with thousands of others like me, I flail about in the March Madness pool at work, wasting $5 to have a shot at creating the most random/crazy winning bracket. I would say the hits on college b-ball sites, especially ESPN, which runs online pools, must increase 1,000 percent or more in March. The poker hits probably remain fairly constant year round. If you look at it this way, the poker hits slam the college b-ball hits... Now since I have no idea how to find the hit counts, I don't know how to verify it, or how to find my own, so I'm kinda stuck. Don't get me wrong, I believe you, I just can't find any numbers of my own! :0)

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I'd never heard it. of course, AI and poker are about as far away from my interests as anything, so, I'm not surprised.


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>AI and poker are about as far away from my interests as anything

you don't do American Idioms?? (or did another AI sneak in here somewheres?)

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 Originally Posted By: tsuwm
>AI and poker are about as far away from my interests as anything

you don't do American Idioms?? (or did another AI sneak in here somewheres?)


idley, I guess...


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 Originally Posted By: tsuwm
>AI and poker are about as far away from my interests as anything

you don't do American Idioms?? (or did another AI sneak in here somewheres?)


I think the original mention of A.I. in this thread was in Jackie's OP and it would be American Idol.

don (filling in for ron in his absence) obvious

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So much for a nice, definitive answer; I might have known. Just 'cause I like things clear doesn't mean they're going to be. Thanks, you-all. I find I'm leaning toward the poker answer, because while b-ball, etc. have been around for years and years and years, poker popularity (to the extent that it is now) is indeed a recent phenomenon.

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 Originally Posted By: Faldage
I think the original mention of A.I. in this thread was in Jackie's OP and it would be American Idol.


In that case it definitely has nothing to do with intelligence, artificial or natural! \:D

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 Originally Posted By: Jackie
So much for a nice, definitive answer; I might have known. Just 'cause I like things clear doesn't mean they're going to be. Thanks, you-all. I find I'm leaning toward the poker answer, because while b-ball, etc. have been around for years and years and years, poker popularity (to the extent that it is now) is indeed a recent phenomenon.


Or you could ask folks who might really know.

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or you could try googling origin: "on the bubble", with the I'm Feeling Lucky button:

Dear Word Detective: I'm a librarian in Edmonds WA, and can't seem to locate the origin of the phrase "on the bubble." It seems to be a sports and business phrase that relates to salary caps or staff cuts. -- Ginny Rollett, Edmonds Library. Edmonds WA.

Since I have not been much of a sports fan since the Dodgers deserted Brooklyn (I was, of course, a wee tot at the time, but the perfidy still stings), your question left me temporarily flummoxed. I checked Paul Dickson's "New Dickson's Baseball Dictionary" (1999), where I learned that "on the bubble" is applied to a player who is on the verge of being sent down to the minor leagues, called up to the majors, or traded. But the only clue given about the logic of the term was that the player's "bubble" is about to burst, and there was no explanation of the term's source.

Fortunately, I then thought to check the online archives of ADS-L, the e-mail discussion group of the American Dialect Society. Lo and behold, there had been a spirited discussion of "on the bubble" back in January 1999, and, as is often the case on ADS-L, somebody actually knew the probable origin of the term.

It seems that "on the bubble" almost certainly comes from the qualifying runs preceding the annual Indianapolis 500 auto race, in which cars compete for the limited number of starting places in the race. Since there are several qualifying runs, the slowest, barely-qualifying car in any given run is said to be "on the bubble" because just one other car making better time in a subsequent run would burst that driver's bubble and dash his or her dream of competing in the big race. The final day of qualifying runs is known, in fact, as "Bubble Day."

Just exactly when "on the bubble" made its first appearance at the Indy 500 is uncertain, although one ADS-L correspondent remembers it being in use back in the 1950s, but over the last twenty years or so it has migrated into the vocabularies of football and basketball commentators, and now into the realm business-speak as well.


-joe (bursting all our bubbles) friday

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Or you could ask folks who might really know.
But but but--I was sure someone here would! But ok, I stand suitably chastized.

Thanks to both of you for the info. [sigh of relief e]

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