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memories of learning phoneticsAnd your post reminded me of this.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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is a story nice enough to be uncloacked out of its link: The North Wind and the Sun is a fable attributed to Aesop. The story concerns a competition between the North Wind and the Sun to decide who was the stronger of the two. The challenge was set to make a passing traveler uncloak. However hard the North Wind blew at the traveler, the traveler only wrapped himself tighter. But when the Sun shone with warmth, the traveler was overcome with heat and had to take his cloak off. The moral was stated at the end of the fable as: Persuasion is better than force. The complete moral of this is "Kindness, gentleness, and persuasion win where force fails."
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Persuasion is better than force. The complete moral of this is "Kindness, gentleness, and persuasion win where force fails."
My mantle!! No, make that my motto, emblazoned across my shield.
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a story nice enoughBran, here's a page full of links to MP3 and PDFs of the fable of the North Wind and the Sun: ( link). With four varieties of Dutch/Flemish; Sanskrit, Hindi, and Tamil; and Papiamento, too.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Thanks, zmjezhd. Downloading the Hindi and Sanskrit made me smile. The transcript shows that Sanskrit loved long words.
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The transcript shows that Sanskrit loved long words.
Yes, even more than German, Sanskrit lends itself to compounds (samasa). I meant to listen to the Hindi one but forgot to.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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That is really a wonderful thing , that language bank! So nice to hear all those voices and tongues. I'll listen more to it tomorrow (late late now) and hope it will stop turn away the north wind, that gave us a snowfrost Easter.
A lovely idea. Amazing that
[ Sanskrit - INDO-ARYAN- 50.000 fluent speakers- Dead language]
there are 50.000 fluent speakers for a dead language. Or are there just as many for latin and old Greek?
Funny , I never heard papiamento before, though I know a few who have lived on Curaçao.
Thanks a lot, Dzjeem.
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Amazing that
[ Sanskrit - INDO-ARYAN- 50.000 fluent speakers- Dead language]
there are 50.000 fluent speakers for a dead language. Or are there just as many for latin and old Greek?
That number was surprising to me too, I thought it would be higher. The total seems to have come from the 1991 census, I don't know what the 2001 census figure was.
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Persuasion is better than force. The complete moral of this is "Kindness, gentleness, and persuasion win where force fails."
My mantle!! No, make that my motto, emblazoned across my shield. Um... but isn't this thread all about 'unmantling' and such stuff? So if your mantle is kindness, gentleness and persuasion, according to the fable your mantle can be gently 'persuaded' off you! In other words, by being nice to you we can gently persuade you to turn into a nasty unkind horrible person! 
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...there are 50.000 fluent speakers for a dead language. Or are there just as many for latin and old Greek?
That number was surprising to me too, I thought it would be higher. The total seems to have come from the 1991 census, I don't know what the 2001 census figure was. There would be a lot of SPEAKERS of early Greek because of the liturgies of the Orthodox churches. But although they speak it in church, I doubt they actually UNDERSTAND it. (Yeehah! With this post I finally graduate to being an 'Enthusiast!')
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