|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,773
Pooh-Bah
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,773 |
This really is a question about a word, has nothing to do with politics or religion and my most profuse apologies in advance to anyone who misunderstands Can anyone suggest a term for autosuggestion of the kind described by William James in Varieties of Religious Experience, calling it "mind-cure"
Something desired by all but achieved by few, it can take a lifetime to achieve though in rare instances can happen in an instant, as with revelation or conversion, a flash. It need not be a religious experience
Thesaurus.com isn't of much help. It may be that the word I'm looking for doesn't exist. However, Jane Doe at a site I'm not sure protocol allows me to mention, "epiphany" is very close and Jane if by chance you also use the present site, thank you again for that. However, if there is a closer one, I need it
The recipient must be susceptible to suggestion; indeed, as with Zen and Islam, it helps if he is open to entertain conflicting ideas. Thus a skeptic is invulnerable
dalehileman
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542 |
a skeptic, in a moment of revelation, is put in mind of thought-terminating cliches.
-joe (but no good will come of that!) friday
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,773
Pooh-Bah
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,773 |
Forgive me for bubbling this one back up but I'm still looking for that word
Incidentally speaking of Buddhism, I wonder if anyone familiar with it might not agree that one of Zen's unspoken tenets is that mental health depends upon being able to entertain conflicting ideas
This is especially true in conventional religion, where faith is de facto the ability to believe something having no basis in fact
But getting back to the word I'm seeking, might a successful mind-cure might not also strongly depend on the foregoing ability
dalehileman
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803 |
I'm no expert in Zen, but I've always thought that the basic idea that you are interpreting as being able to entertain conflicting ideas is really the notion that ideas are just part of the unreality that our perceptions seem to observe.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,773
Pooh-Bah
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,773 |
Fal, quite so. But isn't the ability to consider reality as unreal exactly the phenomenon covered by the idea of conflicting ideas
dalehileman
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,290
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,290 |
How about James Henry Leuba's term: psychotherapic cult for the mind-cure movement or New Thought. I think that mind-cure comes under the more general heading of psychoceramics, which field of study encompasseth many. The lay-term for this multitude is crank or kook. Pseudoscientific crackpottery is alive and well mainly thanks to the easy access of the Web.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,773
Pooh-Bah
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,773 |
zm thank you for those links; you must be a prodigious reader. The beauty of entertaining conflicting ideas, however, doesn't necessarily entail rationalizing any of them
...something like true libertarianism, conservative in fiscal matters but liberal on social isues. Undoubtdly there are conflicts but on the whole I think it's preferable to the usual partisanship
Last edited by dalehileman; 12/25/07 05:50 PM.
dalehileman
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,529
veteran
|
veteran
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,529 |
Ah, Dalmatian, who cares what you think? Two things: do you need to know all answers because you think that you will soon slip into that absolute goodnight? Or do you have the absolute answer for those of us here who have more time?
I bless your good heart.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 631
addict
|
addict
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 631 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,773
Pooh-Bah
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,773 |
Ah, Dalmatian, who cares what you think?
********Gypsy. She is not a Dalmatian but an adopted stray
Two things: do you need to know all answers...
*****I am receptive if you can supply one or two
....because you think that you will soon slip into that absolute goodnight?
**********No doubt I should have departed some time ago as I've done virtually nothing to deserve this longevity at 78 rpm
Or do you have the absolute answer for those of us here who have more time?
*****I truly envy all of you. Especially No. 1 Son at 33 rpm. As the days grow fewer each becomes disproportionally more valuable. Those very few answers I have, I'd be most happy to share at dalehileman@verizon.net
I bless your good heart. *******Thank you but it won't do me much good because God doesn't believe I exist ***Happy new year
dalehileman
|
|
|
Forums16
Topics13,913
Posts229,345
Members9,182
|
Most Online3,341 Dec 9th, 2011
|
|
0 members (),
718
guests, and
0
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|