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No noose for the opinionaters?
No norange for the wayward thinker?
No Kings are rulers in the land of Hansje Brinker.
Just Fancy Rulers for a nice decorum
to keep united well-to-doers and the schorem.

(sitting under the orange tree and enjoying there to be)

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Originally Posted By: BranShea
No noose for the opinionaters?
No norange for the wayward thinker?
No Kings are rulers in the land of Hansje Brinker.
Just Fancy Rulers for a nice decorum
to keep united well-to-doers and the schorum.

(sitting under the orange tree and enjoying there to be)

Excellent rhyme, BranShea, maybe more than excellent. But I don't know exactly who or whom the "schorum" might be but I fear that I might be one of them.

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No not really , I think an " ever the gentleman", even an " ever the gentleman crook " would not be classified under "schorem ".
(sorry for a little spelling mistake)

I should have accepted your ten dollar offer, now that I know what it could have bought me.
I could have bought an orange waterproof ladies reversable vest with faux fur, and wouldn't that have been great, but I'm just ten dollars short.

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Originally Posted By: Myridon
Back to the OP... (oh noes!)
The French dictionary that goes "all the way" back to Italian does not explain the initial 'n' in Sanskrit, Hindi, Arabic, etc. words for orange. Since oranges came to Europe from India and points further east by way of Persia, all those older Eastern languages seem a rather glaring indicator that there was originally an 'n' or that there's something else mysterious to explain away before you can assume that Italian is the authority.


I don't think anyone is denying that the word originated in the East, nor that it lost its initial "n" somewhere along the way. It's just that the explanation is lacking since the change is seen across many languagues, but English is the only one where the pattern "a n..." --> "an ..." exists.

In fairness, it could be argued that in French "ton norange" and "ton orange" are pronounced identically (because of the liason between a terminal consonant and a following vowel) and thus this route from naranga to orange would be plausible. However, since the French dictionaries indicate that the word came from Italian and almost all-- if not all-- indo-European languages have endured a similar change, although the concept is plausible I still rest unconvinced.

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Only a semi-related note: I saw a store sign yesterday that at first glance read "pop corntins".

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Originally Posted By: BranShea
No not really , I think an " ever the gentleman", even an " ever the gentleman crook " would not be classified under "schorem ".
(sorry for a little spelling mistake)

I should have accepted your ten dollar offer, now that I know what it could have bought me.
I could have bought an orange waterproof ladies reversable vest with faux fur, and wouldn't that have been great, but I'm just ten dollars short.

No,no,no,no, BranShea, I didn't say that my Mama said that I was EVER THE GENTLEMAN, my Mama asked me if I was EVER GONNA BE A GENTLEMAN which is not the same thing.
My Mama always said that I was the slowest pea in her three pea pod and that is why I don't know what a "schorem" or a "schorum" is but I think that it is something bad which is what I am.

And I don't have the ten dollars that I owe you. I sent all my money to a man in Nigeria who needs to raise some money so he can send me some money that was left to me by my rich third cousin who died before I got to meet him.

You can have my orange deer hunting vest if you want. But I warn you...once I wore it to a dance and everybody laughed and said that I was trying to get attention.

I know that I am a disappointment to you and my Mama and everyone.
When I was young I tried to join the army and they said no.


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Themilum,
Off topic again, but your ma would have been proud to know that at least you are a good guesser.

schorem: from hebr. sheqorim = bad people.
synonym: gajes (could also go as : ga je 's ; meaning : go on now.( to get back to topic of words plitting )
(What I see a lot here: get your frees ample)

English for schorum : rabble, rifraf (which is other than outre, The Milum !)

Kubark42, I'm not convinced about norange either. Arancia - orange

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