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#165468 01/29/07 08:12 PM
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Us say: way-way-way . As for the v , we would say vay-vay-vay.
Only a small but distinct difference in sound.

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Mah goodness, it shore ain't, Honeychile--there's ay-uf, ay-ul, ee-um, ee-un, and ay-us, to name just a few.




That is Funny.

In Rarotongan the vowel sounds are counted twice. Long and Short.

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Why do we even need to use "www" ? I mean, if every webpage starts with it, why not just eliminate it? What's the diff?

Strangely, perhaps, it reminds me of that anecdote about King George ending every sentence with "Peacock!".

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King George III (1738–1820) reigned during the time of the American Revolution and the War of 1812. His political influence declined from 1788 after bouts of mental illness. During one of his attacks of insanity, he insisted on ending every sentence in all his speeches with the word peacock. His ministers cured him of this by telling him that peacock was a beautiful word but a royal one, which a king should whisper when speaking before his subjects so they couldn't hear it. As a result, the speeches of George III were markedly less absurd.




I say we eliminate this absurd "www" from Internet addressses. It's redundant.

Or is it? What's "http://" ?

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www

It didn't start out that way. The names separated by periods signify (potentially) different machines on the Internet. Originally, www was a shorthand for the host running the web server software. In large companies this is a separate computer from the one running mail or other servers. The toher parts are the company / entity name (e.g., mycompany) and the top-level domain (com or org). There's a database of mappings from these human readable names (e.g., mail.mycompany.biz) to IP address which are four octets (numbers from 0 - 255) again separated by periods (e.g., 192.168.0.1).

The protocol part of the URL (or URI) is http when the transport protocol is going to be the HyperText Transfer Protocol. Others are ftp (File Transfer Protocol) or SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol). The syntax for an HTTP URI/URL is:

protocol://host.domain.top_level_domain[:port]/path_to_file (Don't click on this link, my example syntax fooled the posting software into treating this as a link.)

The port part of the URI is optional, and defaults if not given to 80.

That being said, most web clients (the software you use on your computer to download and render HTML web pages is very forgiving of malformed or abbreviated URLs.


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I say we eliminate this absurd "www" from Internet addressses. It's redundant.




The 'vvv' becomes redundant with later wersions of veb browsers once you have entered an address.

'Hypertext transfer protocol' does have it's uses. It is part of the syntax of computerspeak which though not necessary in this instance is vital in other contexts. I don't think making it redundant is the key, rather accepting it as jargon making it's way into the main stream.

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for none computer nerds:
http = hyper text transfer protocol
a set of instructions (protocols) for hyper text.
HTML (one of the original "web" languages was
hyper text mark-up language.

www = world wide web (allegedly)

a URL is a universal resourse locator
which really means is an address to a specific server.

computer nerds love initalism

(my favorite, twain (the stuff your scanner uses
=technology without any interesting name.... )

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(my favorite, twain (the stuff your scanner uses
=technology without any interesting name.... )




Mine, relative to colours on the screen = WYSIWYG (Or, wizzywig as us TV folk call it) What you see is what you get.

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re: woo-woo-woo and vuh3:

I have tried to use wuh-wuh-wuh, but it hasn't caught on...


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wysiwyg is more than just color!

my first computer was a TI99/4a (a 16 bit processor home comupter) it had a 40 character screen.
if you wanted to format your documents, you needed to put in printer codes.

the standard typed page has about 55 to 60 characters (or 8.5 X11 or A4 paper) if you used screen margins, (40 characters) it looked odd (very wide margins)

if you set margins to 60 characters, you couldn't see a complete line of text on the monitor! (it went wide as we sometimes see here)

the solution was to see a 40 character screen (easy to read on the monitor, but to set 60 character margins for printer.

so what you saw on screen, was definately not what you got on paper. (for simple text not to much of an issue, but if you wanted to formate indents, or insert other files (images) and formate the text around the image, its was mental gymanstics--trust me, i know, i was rather good at it!
(i used a austrailian word processor (funnel web software) that was very useful, but there wasn't for the whole time i had the system, anything close to wysiwyg software for word processing!

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zmj wrote "It didn't start out that way. "

What he said. 'www' is redundant, but very useful for humans trying to coordinate usage on computers.

If you're managing several dozen or several hundred computers (not at all uncommon), it's easier to track things if you give them names that relate to their function. So, we can have www.wordsmith.org or mail.wordsmith.org or ftp.wordsmith.org. That's probably a bit of overcomplicated for Anu's situation. But for, say, a university or a large corporation, it can be a big deal.

Computers can also have aliases. So, for example, I frequently use a computer called jaguar - just 'jaguar' - even though internally it's got some funky name the computer service people gave it that identifies what department owns it and a unique id that they can cross-reference to figure out where it is.

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