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#160041 07/04/06 02:28 AM
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familiar is relative.
and change is not bad--what is hard to deal with (at any age) is change forced upon us.

No one minds quitting a job, when they have a better one lined up.

No one relished being fired -unexpectedly.

chosing to move is a good thing--and can be envigerating.
being forced to relocate, (because you can't keep up the old place, or because its been destroyed, (fire, flood, whatever))is devestating.

most of us like change..when we have some control over the change.
no one wants to wear the same clothes everyday. or eat the same food. what we want is choice. what we dislike is imposed (choiceless) change.

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familiar is relative.




Quite, Helen, everything is relative. (except my Uncle Kenny who is a relative but nothing about Kenny is what you might describe as familiar. Strange, yes, he once backed a Ford pick-up truck almost twenty-five miles from Bessemer to Birmingham to win a five dollar bet.)

But by age eighty and above, you, me, and everyone, will have changed about as much as we felt was interesting and we will then only want to wait out our remaining time on this Earth in a pleasant and familiar setting.

My Grandmother Grider told me so back in 1968.

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And maybe it is none of my business but why would a 87-year-old woman want to move to a new house? Visit her often, Father Steve, I fear that she won't be very happy there, old folk need familiar surroundings.

This remarkable lady has been living on her own in the Greater Seattle area while her daughter and son-in-law live on the beach on the Olympic Peninsula. It was her wish and their wish to reduce the distance (two floating bridges, one half-hour ferry ride and about fifty miles of driving) between them. So they built her a dream house, right next to theirs, so she has her privacy but can walk twenty yards and be in their home. Her grandkids also have a summer home on the property which will, in many years, become their retirement home. They are up there all the time, building some addition on it, which puts them close to grandma.

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This remarkable lady has been living on her own in the Greater Seattle area while her daughter and son-in-law live on the beach on the Olympic Peninsula. It was her wish and their wish to reduce the distance (two floating bridges, one half-hour ferry ride and about fifty miles of driving) between them. So they built her a dream house, right next to theirs, so she has her privacy but can walk twenty yards and be in their home. Her grandkids also have a summer home on the property which will, in many years, become their retirement home. They are up there all the time, building some addition on it, which puts them close to grandma.




Maybeso, Father Steve, but what young folks want is not always what old folks want, but most old folks like to please their children.

Maybe your old folks in Seattle are different. I'll check them out when I spend eight days in Seattle this August ensconced in Bellingham at the Western Washington University campus.

Now, if you please, Father Steve, a quick question about border crossings...

Do you think that I will have any problen bopping in and out of Canada armed with only an Alabama driver's license and my birth certificate?

I would appreciate your advice.

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RE: But by age eighty and above, you, me, and everyone, will have changed about as much as we felt was interesting and we will then only want to wait out our remaining time on this Earth in a pleasant and familiar setting.
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Good god, i hope not!

i want to be interesting, and learning new things, and changing right up to the day i die.

my daughter tells me i am too old to wear my hair long, and i should get it cut. well, i am not too old for long hair, nor am i too old to do anything.

i just bought a new stereo set. it plays CD (i have several hundred) and it plays MP3 files.
to date i have 0 MP3 files. but i already have cute little jump drive, (and i let my daughter share some of her music files with me, via the jump drive) and my computer can burn cd filled with mp3 files, and i suspect in a short while, i'll have several hundred mp3 files to go along with my CD.

i don't have all the latest technology (alas, i can't afford it!) but i am not going to be a source of antiques when i die (well that not quite true, i have a collection of antiques, from relatives who got locked into an age,and stopped changing!)
me, i plan to rip all my cd's, change them into mp3 files, and eventually, i will have a stereo that plays MP3 files and X (what ever the next new technology is)

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Do you think that I will have any problen bopping in and out of Canada armed with only an Alabama driver's license and my birth certificate?

According to this page on the US State Department's website, "The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 requires that by January 1, 2008, travelers to and from the Caribbean, Bermuda, Panama, Mexico and Canada have a passport or other secure, accepted document to enter or re-enter the United States." It doesn't really say what "other secure, accepted documents" are (probably UPC on your right arm), but then da gummint has always had a fuzzy semantics problem. Also, I guess the old rules hold for pre-01/01/08 crossings (I always used my passport when entering Canada or Mexico) into the Evil Commonwealth of Canadia, a well-known Commanist dictatorship. (Whyever would you want to leave Alabama, let alone the US of A? Da gummint will flag all your phone calls and internet postings extra special from now on.)

You might want to peruse the act itself for more clues. (Be careful, reading this document may win you a vacation in Kazakhstan or Romania.)


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I want to be interesting, and learning new things, and changing, right up to the day I die...




Hear, hear! (And where's that jumping-up-and-down-clapping-e when you want it?)

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my newest catch phrase--is
that is so last century! --i use it when someone says mail (and start to give me a street address)
or when they offer to share photo's, (and bring out a pile of snap shots, that i have to look at, with them looking over my shoulder, expaining every shot) or when they talk about going down to 34th street to the airline ticket office.

It's so last century!
me, i am living in the 21st century, and abandoning last century practices as fast as i can.
i've had digital images for over 10 years (and a digital camera for 5). I have an on-line photogallery, and while i do occationally print an image, i ususally just share images electronicly.

sure, i knit. but knitting is not totally anachronisitic.
it can be. there are knitters who haven't looked at or imagined anything new in eons. but there are wonderful new things in knitting. --take socks.. for 500 years, they were knit, one at time, on sets of double pointed needles.

i knit mine, 2 at time, on 2 circular needles. the socks look the same, but the process is new.

sure, hand knitting is old fashioned, but trust me, once you feel customed sized hand knit socks!! (oh, did i mention, i knit in wool, but not old fashioned wool. i use 'superwash' -a treated wool that can be machine washed and dried)

my hand knit wool sock might seem old fashioned, but they are nothing like the socks your grandmother knit.
mine are custome made luxure items!

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My mother's 81st birthday present is a tandem paraglide off one of the local mountains. Her request and I agreed to pay for it. Personally I can't imagine jumping of a mountain. Ooops pardon me, launching off a mountain.

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"The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 requires that by January 1, 2008, travelers to and from the Caribbean, Bermuda, Panama, Mexico and Canada have a passport or other secure, accepted document to enter or re-enter the United States."

It doesn't really say what "other secure, accepted documents" are (probably UPC on your right arm), but then da gummint has always had a fuzzy semantics problem. Also, I guess the old rules hold for pre-01/01/08 crossings (I always used my passport when entering Canada or Mexico) into the Evil Commonwealth of Canadia, a well-known Commanist dictatorship. (Whyever would you want to leave Alabama, let alone the US of A? Da gummint will flag all your phone calls and internet postings extra special from now on.)





Thanks zmjezhd, I guess the old "fuzzy" rules will stand this summer when I visit socialist Canada.
And who said I wanted to leave Alabama? What I want is to share my knowledge about caves and the World in general with cavers from all of the American states; even Vermont and San Fransisco.

Thanks, pal.

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