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Whoa, dude, pretty harsh words. Learn some linguistics and get back to me on why Chomsky is what you say he is. In fact, since music is a language, hum me a few bars of your thesis. Far be it from me to defend Chomsy's linguistic theories, as I studied with one of his alienated grad students, but to listen to you talk about language is like listening to Bart Simpson scratch out Beethoven's 9th Symphony on a chalkboard. Go back to bird watching and leave language to linguists.
Ah! Zmjezhd, the quintessential modern man speaks.
And he says in effect...
Well, I don't know enough to know what Mister Chomsky is talking about but Mister Chomsky is so smart that I don't know what he is talking about.
Say Zmjezhd, can you or Faldage or any of you other manly Awad cats discuss the nature of music and language without your tart remarks?
Maybe not. 
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discuss the nature of music and language without your tart remarksOh, Milo, baby. Did you fall down and bruise your ego? Maybe you can get one of your geese to kiss it. I simply said that, on linguistics, Professor Chomsky knows more than Mr Milo. I know this because I have read what the both of them have to say on the subject. I may disagree with Chomsky on his theory of language, but you've never really said anything substantive about language, so there. 
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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I think we are on the same page here, Insel. it is why I went so far to say "music is math" yet "math is not music". Being more successful at making math out of music is a function not an aesthetic (IMHO). A theory should not be the driving force in composition any more than technique should be the driving force in a performance... yet, often it is what some give highest regard.
Good enough. Yeah, I forgot your >>"music is math" yet "math is not music"<< thing.
(I wuz gonna say, if ears did all that calculating, most of us would be much better mathematicians. But I guess I don't have to, now  )
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Well?I said I disagree with Chomsky, and you still don't know squat about language.  There, satisfied? I especially disagree with, as you point out, his theory of innateness of language. I also disagree with what you said about music and language. They are not the same thing, and Chomsky still knows more about language than you do about language, music, bullspit, or hog jowls. You, sir, are a troll. Always have been, always will be, either hiding behind Gripholdo's skirts, your smilies, or not. Good night, sir.
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All right, folks. Everybody back off. The referees are here with the tape measure to see who's pissed the farthest.
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I thought it was supposed to be the highest?
Just asking, like.
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Bach shot farther, higher and longer than anyone else so shall we declare this convo moot, already? 
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Bach shot farther, higher and longer than anyone else so shall we declare this convo moot, already?
Define moot.
But I'll agree that Bach (most of 'em) were in some ways more adept than I. And then after me and the Bachs comes the babbling Chomskies of the world, and then comes the zmjezhdies.
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I don't know about 'longer and higher'... methinks Mozart was a much bigger *wanker. I'll give you 'farther' but you ommited 'denser' and a number of other *countries. "Moot" it is! (ps - I think I'll start *this again somewhere free of all this subtle antonomasia) 
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