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#149450 10/26/05 09:27 PM
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So is it Veterans Day, Veterans' Day or Veteran's Day?

And is it Presidents Day, Presidents' Day or President's Day?

And is it Mothers Day, Mothers' Day or Mother's Day?

(And if somebody tells me that is a YART, I don't care, because about 4000 of the people who used to be here aren't here anymore and the remaining 50 who were here when this may have been discussed before can afford to be gracious, for the benefit of the newcomers.)

#149451 10/26/05 11:28 PM
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I say no apostrophes at all, since it is a day for veterans, a day for mothers, etc.

If you were to absolutely insist on apostrophising it would be after the s, since the day belongs to all veterans, mothers, etc., not just to one of them.

A google of Department of Veterans Affairs provides some disagreement. In the US there is no apostrophe for the Department of Veterans Affairs, but in Australia they say Department of Veterans' Affairs.

Several of the states here have the same, and the first few listed in the google results seem to be split fairly evenly, though I didn't do a count.

I'd say personal preference overall, but the enabling statute would be controlling in the individual case.

TEd

Edited to fix a typo and to ask if you can verb apostrophe.

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The other one that always throws me is when to use childrens or children's (and sometimes I think it should be childrens', but).

#149453 10/27/05 12:32 AM
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Children's Hospital has an apostrophe in Seattle, Boston, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Montreal, Pittsburgh, Melbourne, Austin and Phoenix. No apostrophe in Los Angeles nor Indianapolis.

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The Feds' Office of Personnel Management site has Veterans Day.

#149455 10/27/05 09:06 AM
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Alfred Ochs boasted that he saved his newspaper $1 million in ink over 25 years by not apostrophising holidays names.

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#149456 10/27/05 05:09 PM
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>apostrophising holidays names

shouldn't that be either "holidays' names" or "holiday names", one?

#149457 10/27/05 05:47 PM
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Quote:

>apostrophising holidays names

shouldn't that be either "holidays' names" or "holiday names", one?




The noun is plural the adjective should be plural, too. Where's your sense of preserving the integrity of the language. Jeesh! Leave you guys alone for half a minute and we'll be reduced to nothing but incoherent babbling.

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[quoteThe noun is plural the adjective should be plural, too... reduced to nothing but incoherent babbling.




And the Whites Sox, um Whites Soxs?, are the winners.

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The one in Columbus, Ohio has an apostrophe, too.

Edit: the Children's Hospital in Columbus, that is!

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