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The 17 September Telegraph reports the results of the GCSE exam in the Mother Country. 31,036 teenagers took the exam and demonstrated an abysmal grasp of written English. Some highlights:
The use of "gonna, aint, wanna and shouda" The use of slang and street language The failure to use a capital letter for the first person pronoun. The use of text messaging spelling, e.g. m8 and u. The lack of proper paragraphing. The confusion of homophones (their, there, they're) The absence or misuse of the apostrophe
This is further proof that the descriptivists are winning and that the prescriptivists are elitist obstructionist dinosaurs.
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The descriptivists aren't winning. We're the sports casters. Y'all are the umpires. You aren't losing. Or mehbe i shouda sed loosing.
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Or mehbe i shouda sed loosing
Hey, HEY!!!!
...and the wrest are bawl players?
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Eye wrest mai k's.
Prescriptivists RULE. Because the descriptivists are all flipping burgers at Mickey D's.
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This, from my 14-year-old, highly intelligent god-daughter. Make of it what you will ...
heya!!:o) gd 2 hear u got mi card...what style of music is it? i am stayin at kaylas house( she is mi m8 n lives on a farmy ) wiv cows .....i watch lots of tv here coz dey got like 100 channels or something coz theyg ot sky i get up an hour earlier n i get dressed wuite wuickly so i am ready at like 6:10am n we leave at lyke 7am so i can watch tv while i am eating ma breakfast LAST NIGHT we had a hurricane/tornado thing hit us....n sum roofs were lifted off n THE HUGE AS TREES ( N THEY WERE MASSIVE AS ) WERE SNAPPED IN HALF AND PULLED OUT OF DA GROUND N stuff n THERE IS SUM HOLES TO. i woz at rachelsplace for netball but at kaylas their house woz almost vibratin coz of the loud as thunder and lightning... newayz i g2g now\ bubi love from vanessa
I hope I can reasonably expect that she is, at some level anyway, merely taking the piss ...
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Oh, so sad. Descriptivists are neither winning or losing, but they do describe what speakers/writers of the language are saying or writing at any one time, without judgment of correctness or incorrectness. Prescriptivists are neither winning or losing, but they try to stipulate how the speakers/writers of a language should speak or write. Most descriptivists I know can speak and write standard English as well or better than most prescriptivists I know. The big difference between the two camps is the excuses or reasons that prescriptivists invent or inherit to explain why one usage is better than or to be preferred to another. It's been said before, and will probably be said again.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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The descriptivists aren't winning. We're the sports casters. Y'all are the umpires. You aren't losing.
Well said as always, Faldo. Your observations are sensible, rational and dispassionately expressed. Kudos.
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> sports casters
aren't that sportscasters?
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aren't that sportscasters?
Depends on whether you leave the space out or not.
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>>aren't that sportscasters?>>Depends on whether you leave the space out or not.------------------------------------------------ Cap, I'm really, really hoping that she was writing you like that because she thinks you're her cool uncle who'll understand text messaging.
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Yes, after all, police are not said to be losing simply because 9 out of 10 thieves get away with it.
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Presumably at this stage of your god-daughter's education she will be learning that the language which is appropriate in a personal letter to a friendly godfather is not necessarily appropriate in other circumstances.
I do hope she is not a member of AWADtalk. If she is, it may be a long time before you get another letter from her.
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Exactly, nor are the police said to be winning when they arrest people for breaking an immoral, but just, law.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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"an imoral, but just, law."
I don't understand. Would you mind explaining?
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I don't understand. Would you mind explaining?
I was just referring to laws that once held sway, but were later overturned and now thought to be immoral. It's a matter of ethics versus jurisprudence. Perhaps just is too positive a word. Legal might be a better word, something can be legal, but at the same time is immoral.
[Edited to add final sentence.]
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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>>It's a matter of ethics versus jurisprudence. Perhaps just is too positive a word.<<
Thought so, just couldn't see it. "Just" threw me off.
Tx
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Thought so, just couldn't see it. "Just" threw me off.
My rhetoric just got carried away and ran over my semantics.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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This reminds me that/of the answer to "Just say no." was "Say no to just".
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