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this one bothers me..
I distinctly remember, as a lad (lo these many), listening to radio broadcasts (and maybe Dizzy Dean on the tv?) wherein pains were taken to differentiate between "hit & run" and "run & hit", akin to the difference to a "squeeze play" and a "suicide squeeze". that is, in each of the former instances the runner waits to see if the hit/bunt is successful; in the latter events, the runner leaves with the pitch.
I don't know when run & hit was dropped from the lexicon; perhaps there was a hit-and-run incident.
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when run & hit was dropped from the lexicon
Maybe it just didn't fit the rule for forming these sorts of phrases.
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Zed, your last word said, "Odd." Agreed. I suppose "oral-speak" gets around for a long time before some word appears in print. But I was born in 1937, and my family seemed to be familiar with "geehaw" as long as I can remember. Could have been family or colloquialism, but seems broader than that. Odd. Thanks.--Johnnie G
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"run & hit" gets hundreds of GHs and is defined in several. I'm thinking it has succumbed to Baseball Announcer Dumbing Down [BADD]; e.g., calling the inside/outside edges of the strike zone "corners."
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I wonder if it is a regionality which would explain the time lag before hitting the page. I use regional words like chuck (for ocean) in speech that I wouldn't use in published writing whereas more commmon slang I might.
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The use of "chuck" to refer to a body of water, especially to an ocean, is a derivation from the Chinook Jargon -- a trading language which enabled trade between Europeans and Native Americans of the Pacific Northwest.
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At the latest AWAD chat we asked Erin McKean, who edits the Oxford American Dictionary, if she had heard "geehaw." She hadn't. Here's the transcript: http://wordsmith.org/chat/mckean.html
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Thanks so much for the time you and Faldage gave "geehaw" with Erin. I was delighted with her enthusiasm for the word both times you mentioned it to her. I bought the OAD update as soon as it came out (providing grandkids with my older one). I'm sorry I wasn't around to interact with Erin. One of the things that occurred to me is that there's enough difference in the much larger OED and the OAD that I wonder if Erin/staff of the OAD crosscheck their words with the OED. For example, the concept of "gee" by itself as agreement isn't even in the OAD. No problem. However, the OAD doesn't even list the gee and haw, right and left that surely has been common ever since "horsedom" or "muldedom" or whatever. Further, the close relationship of "geehaw" to Alaskan huskies and other canines doesn't seem to show up in all these discussions; and as I traced "geehaw" all over the cyberspace universe with search engines to the nth degree, I found quite a bit on canine usage of "geehaw."
TMI (Or as my college granddaughter explained to me, "Too much information!" Sorry about that. I do have another life besides the enjoyment I've been getting of geehawing here with you fine folks:). I've been going back and forth one of our fine bb guys on "nidifguous" and "nidiculous," which is one of my favorite contrasts in the bird kingdom. Just a thought for those no in the know on those words but are interested.
Again, thanks so much for the interview time you/Faldage and Erin devoted to "geehaw."--Genuinely/Appreciatively, Johnnie G
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back in the brick & mortar world, the next time someone is at her (large?) library he might check the DARE for gee/haw/geehaw.
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Thanks for the checking of DARE. From what Erin said, it sounded like a body needs a special ribbon or ID to get into those files--or maybe a special donation:). Thanks for the suggestion. Maybe someone with access will follow up.
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