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is there a word for the lag (about one month in these climes) by which seasonal weather follows the calendar seasons?
(as an example, the coldest day on average here is Jan. 20, one month after winter solstice.)
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Gregory brought things back in line. If you count winter as starting in late December the lag isn't nearly as bad as it would be if you count it as beginning in early November. But, I don't think there's a single word for it. It usually is known as "the lag of the seasons" or something like that. Here's an explanation: http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/time/seasons.htmlScroll down a little bit.
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There may not be a single word for it, but thanks to your link, I learned a new one: insolation
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the coldest day on average here is Jan. 20, one month after winter solstice - Why should a season start with an extreme? This would require nature to make sudden jumps, which is not in her ... nature.
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>Why should a season start with an extreme?
that's not the question to hand. winter solstice is the shortest day -- at first blush you'd think it would be the coldest, having gotten gradually colder as the days shorten, and that the weather would be on the upswing from there; but that point comes one month later. that's the lag.
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Why should a season start with an extreme?
What I said about depending on when you consider the season to start. If December twenty-umpth is midwinter then winter starts around November ooth. That's the way we used to figure it time back way back.
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Thank you, Faldage! I've been arguing this one for years! In the old Celtic calendar, November 1st was the first day of winter (and, incidentally, the first day of the new year) and May 1st the first day of summer. This places the solstices smack in the middle of the season and not as "first day of..." as we perpetually hear from people who clearly aren't listening to themselves....
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>>clearly aren't listening to themselves.
That's going a littlel far, I think, no? [/friendly] That the solstice should be the *start of the season is something I've wondered about -- but I'm willing to accept the definition, if, indeed, it is so defined.[/also friendly]
Added: Faldage's url says the 'atmosphere' stores heat. I would think the ocean was the thermal mass. But, speaking of definitions, I wonder why the atmosphere and oceans are considered separate, altogether, and not as a single system.
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One part of my job is to do cognitive screening assessments on my patients; they get a point if they can tell me the season according to the calendar. But it feels mean to score them as wrong for saying it's spring since the daffodils are finished and the tulips are just in their prime now.
(On the down side our summer usually comes on a Thursday and lasts until Friday at noon)
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