|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379
Pooh-Bah
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803 |
German from which universe?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379
Pooh-Bah
|
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379 |
<<From which universe>>
Denke mal. Mensch! Nur denke mal!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803 |
Oh, was this some kind of pun?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379
Pooh-Bah
|
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379 |
<<Oh, was this some kind of pun?>>
Therefore the wink emoticon [winkicon].
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,757
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,757 |
> Therefore the wink emoticon [winkicon].
he says without winking...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379
Pooh-Bah
|
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 6,511
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 6,511 |
Oy. I still don't get it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 273
enthusiast
|
|
enthusiast
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 273 |
>Oy. I still don't get it.
I just have, und jetzt bin ich krank.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379
Pooh-Bah
|
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379 |
Now, I didn't say it was worthwhile.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803 |
OK, if it's not worth the effort …
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 273
enthusiast
|
|
enthusiast
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 273 |
In reply to:
I didn't say it was worthwhile.
There's no need to be so curt.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379
Pooh-Bah
|
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 273
enthusiast
|
|
enthusiast
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 273 |
In reply to:
<<curt>>
?
If you figure it out, I'll give you 3 pennies.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803 |
Of course, this whole thread raises the question: can a single word, in isolation, qualify as a pun, either bad or good?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379
Pooh-Bah
|
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379 |
<<Three Pennies>>
Drei Groschen, will do -- How many of them in a Euro, anyway?: Tschja, wo dann liegt, eigentlich, der Schnee vom vergananen Jahr?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379
Pooh-Bah
|
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379 |
<<One word pun>>
Well, yes and no: that's why I attempted to edit the thread's title to "Loanword" (singular) from German (see my first post). The pun, such as it is, is on that troubled old grouping "Loan words [plural] from German."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 6,511
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 6,511 |
put me out of my misery.
Danke zwei-und-vierzig mals.
Liesl
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379
Pooh-Bah
|
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379 |
<<misery>>
But I'm afraid I may only augment it.
Preliminarily, my brother tells me the term I'm looking for concerning punning across languages is "faux amis." I'm not sure "false friends" quite does it there, but it is involved here. So, here goes
"Loanwords" of "Loanwords from German" directly translates the German term "Leihwort," from "leihen:" "to lend," and "wort". "Lion," clearly latinate, is a near-homophone. Ergo "Loan" word from "German." Of course, the "from German," part is complete nonsense -- and you know my penchant for that.
Loan words are frowned upon by Germans. Presumably, though, "Loewe" (lion) derives from the same Latin, and there are many many acceptable Latinate words in German. So that near the line, I'm not quite sure where they draw it.
Sorry, Liesl, for the torment. This was originally intended as a one-glance post.
Finally, do you know the ditty about Lies[l] waiting for Hans in Pope Benedicts home state of Bayern? If not, I would be happy to deliver yet another torment. ;)
Edit: From my brother's email, an example: Duh is polish for brilliant. Dhoy is Russian for profound.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379
Pooh-Bah
|
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379 |
<<und jetzt bin ich krank>>
Ach, so! Und nehmst du a lie-down, oder?
;)
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379
Pooh-Bah
|
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379 |
Not even a weary O was heard
on windless 'morrow
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 6,511
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 6,511 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 273
enthusiast
|
|
enthusiast
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 273 |
Now it's my turn to say "ich bin schuldig". I misread the pun. I am not anything like clever enough to have figured out inselpeter's intended pun. I simply thought it was a pun on "loan/loewen", allowing for sloppy mispronunciation of one of the punned words. It seems that straining a word's pronunciation to fit a pun is de rigeur, if the many on this board are any guide, so that's what I thought this pun was.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,692
Pooh-Bah
|
|
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,692 |
I don't think it's really strained pronunciation. [duck]Just American.[/hide]
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 273
enthusiast
|
|
enthusiast
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 273 |
You do know that (a) I'm a NZer, and (b) the strained pronunciation I was talking about was of the German half of the pun?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,210
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,210 |
puns are like a stroll (or a run) through a meadow, or an art gallery; each one leads to something else, perhaps unexpected, with the enjoyment coming from the reactions, some subtle, some not, that one has with each new thought or idea. the path (of thought) taken while one delves into language, and sound, is enjoyable for its own sake.
or something like that.
formerly known as etaoin...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379
Pooh-Bah
|
|
OP
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,379 |
Band of outsiders. Yeah. I kinda like that.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,692
Pooh-Bah
|
|
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,692 |
You do know that (a) I'm a NZer, and (b) the strained pronunciation I was talking about was of the German half of the pun? ~ VC
Er, yes, but I was picking up on your general statement:
It seems that straining a word's pronunciation to fit a pun is de rigeur, if the many on this board are any guide
...and anyway, I was just trying to provoke TEd!
|
|
|
|
Forums16
Topics13,913
Posts229,328
Members9,182
| |
Most Online3,341
Dec 9th, 2011
|
|
|
0 members (),
757
guests, and
0
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|
