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What a coinkeedink. I was just looking at the Vatican website, which tells the world that Benny's going to allow the teaching of sex education in American Catholic high schools. Their version of the three Rs will be Reading, wRiting, and Rhythmic tricks.
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Who else here loves "Eats, Shoots and Leaves"?William Strunk, Jr. doesn't: http://bartleby.com/141/strunk.html#2
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Okay, Anna, maybe the other pronunciation is not of itself deplorable. What I find deplorable is that a) CBC, once, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, the bastion of good Canadian English, has adopted this American pronunciation and b) the confusion. If I say "It was a complete rowt", how can you tell if I am referring to my new mail delivery job or the ousting of, say, hunters from my (posted) property by me with my little old frying pan?
Mostly b, I guess, although there is also a certain amount of protectiveness for my national liguistic identity.
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the confusion. If I say "It was a complete rowt", how can you tell if I am referring to my new mail delivery job or the ousting of, say, hunters from my (posted) property by me with my little old frying pan?
Ya know? If we know enough of the context to know what the antecedent of [i]t is we'd parboly have no trouble knowing what you meant. Not to mention that the two phrases, at least in my ideolect, sound different.
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Insel asked, in a PM, for references on parliamnetary procedure. I couldn't encourage the damned PM responder unit thingie hoozit to work. So here is my private reply, for all the world to see:
The Holy Bible is, of course, Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised (10th Ed.), Henry M. Robert, III, William J. Evans, et al., Perseus Publishing, 2000.
The two introductory books which I recommend to the begnner are:
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Robert's Rules by Nancy Sylvester, Penguin, 2004.
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Robert's Rules for Dummies (Dummies Series) by C. Alan Jennings, Wiley John & Sons, 2004.
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When a lawyer says "I would like to make a motion," I often interrupt to ask "What's holding you back?"
Perhaps, since you are in charge, the lawyer is asking for permission. Certainly, making a motion is not contrary to the language of Robert's Rules of Order:
A motion is a proposal that the assembly take certain action, or that it express itself as holding certain views. It is made by a member’s obtaining the floor as already described and saying, “I move that” (which is equivalent to saying, “I propose that”), and then stating the action he proposes to have taken.
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Fr. Steve:
I hope to make a long (very long) story fairly short.
When I lived in West Virginia, a circuit court judge was on trial for (among other things) issuing himself a concealed weapons permit without having the application published in a local paper. Among the other events leading up to the trial was his announcement that he would be the presiding judge at his trial because he was the circuit judge for that jurisdiction. It took literally an order of the WV Supreme Court to get him off the bench long enough for another judge to come in and preside.
During the proceedings he was asked on the witness stand if he kept his weapon with him at all times. "Yes," he replied. "I kept it with me always."
"Even on the bench?"
"Especially on the bench. I knew they were out to get me and I wanted to be prepared."
"Mr. Dostert, did you keep the pistol in your robe?"
"No. I kept it right on the bench in a hollowed out copy of 'Robert's Rules of Order.'"
We referred to this guy as the law west of the Shenandoah. This was in Charles Town, WV back in the very early 1980s. I'm not gonna tell much more, though there is a lot more, because this esteemed gentleman's escapades on the bench are part of my next novel, titled The Great West Virginia Copter Caper. He died without heirs a few years back, so I feel comfortable writing this without worrying too much about a lawsuit.
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I don't get so upset about pronunciations since words are pronounced differently all over the world - and really, who's is to say who is ultimately right.
People automatically believe their own way of saying something is right - just because that is what they learned. Even dictionaries vary depending upon what variation of English they reporting on.
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As always, Maverick's balanced and reasonable observations both make sense and give no cause for offense. Blessings, mav.
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