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#14127 - 11/08/01 01:58 PM Re: Patricide  
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My reference for Oed was Sophocles...

That's the great thing about myths; they provide so much fodder for story-telling and reinterpretation. But I don't think anyone considers, e.g., Jesus Christ Super-Star to be a definitive telling of the central myth of the Christian church.




#14128 - 11/08/01 06:55 PM Re: Patricide  
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Well, Faldage, good point about Jesus Christ, Super Star, so I'm all ears about your Oedipus who differs from Sophocles' Oed. Tell your tale here, if you get a chance. In the Graves you mention, it's flat-out stated that Oedipus knew he was killing the king of Thebes? And that, by killing the Sphinx, he was forgiven and then married the queen? Or was it more planned? Did he fall in love with the queen, kill the king, solve the riddle, marry the queen, bring about the plague, learn the truth, blind himself a la Sophocles, and so on....or does is the Graves completely different?

This is very, very interesting. So, if you have a moment to jot the Graves Oed facts down, thanks a lot. I'd look 'em up myself, but I've got rehearsal with the Munchkins to plan for...

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#14129 - 11/08/01 08:13 PM Re: Patricide  
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is the Graves completely different?

As I remember it, yes. I'll gotta look it up tonight, but I may not get to it till the weekend. Tonight's gone be getting the lovely AnnaS back on line. Not to mention laundry.

For a teaser, the Sphinx's riddle is glossed from a whole nother story.


#14130 - 11/09/01 12:56 PM Re: Patricide  
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Faldage: Looking forward to hearing about the Graves. Thanks for checking it out. I won't be able to read anything this weekend till Sunday due to our rural phones lines being down.... But, anyway, good luck with getting AnnaS all set up, and happy hunting through the Graves. (Gosh, that sounds lugubrious!)

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#14131 - 11/09/01 03:37 PM Re: Patricide  
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Not salubrious, but not necessarily lugubrious. One man's grave robbing is another man's archaeology.


#14132 - 11/12/01 02:04 AM Re: Patricide  
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So true, wwh, about the archaeology. We used to have mummies displayed in the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts, but I don't think any may be viewed anymore. I'll have to check it out one weekend to see whether there are any that remain, so to speak.

I can understand how sensitive people would protest the display, but, honestly, those mummies were the highpoint of visits by most children...

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#14133 - 11/12/01 05:46 AM Re: Patricide  
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Immanuel Velikovsky had the theory that the story of Oedipus was actually a memory of the pharaoh Akhenaten, but I forget why.

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#14134 - 11/12/01 02:29 PM Re: Patricide  
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Immanuel Velikovsky had the theory ... but I forget why.

Because he was whacked out.


#14135 - 11/12/01 04:41 PM Re: Patricide  
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Worlds in Collision, 1950, and Earth in Upheaval, 1955. Velikovsky suffered permanent concussion from writing this.


#14136 - 11/13/01 01:10 AM Re: The Oresteia/Mourning Becomes Electra  
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Eugene O'Neill very consciously encased his great play, Mourning Becomes Electra, within the patterened shell of the Greek Electra myth, in a loose parallel of Aeschylus' timeless tragedy, The Oresteia. Only O'Neill set his work in post-Civil War New England among a Yankee aristocratic family, the Mannons. Lot's of Oedipal subtext! Read O'Neill's play...all the answers are there! Really.


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