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#141186 03/24/05 11:37 AM
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se/ih~CONDm'nt

Irregardless, the addition of a suffix renders it hors concours.


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second (SEND)
verb [T] UK


seh~COND


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That one has not, apparently, made its way to this side of the pond.

I've read it in many a novel by people from your side, and have had context to tell me what it means. But never heard it pronounced before.

Makes me wonder what other words there are like that in "your" novels. But how would we know unless we got a book on tape (UGH!!!!!!)





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(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)

Thanks, Mav, for giving USns the benefit of the doubt! ;-)

(I'd also never heard this pronunciation/usage before)


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I guess I'd better get a Beginning Learner's Dictionary. I cannot believe this. All my life I have pronounced second with the accent on the first syllable, including for the meaning as a duelist's back-up. And apparently none of my teachers knew any better, because I was never corrected on it. But I listened to the pronunciation at this site, and oh my gosh. I have NEVER heard it pronounced this way:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

Here's another first: when I tested that link--three times--, I got a window that said merely: No arguments in request. So I suppose anyone who wants proof of the second-syllable accent will have to go there (Merriam-Webster) or somewhere on their own. Sorry.


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Yeahbut® Jackie, I gather the only time it's pronounced this way is in the definition Mav posted:

"to send an employee to work somewhere else temporarily, either to increase the number of workers or to replace other workers, or to exchange experience or skills"

If you're not familiar with the usage then you wouldn't be familiar with the pronunciation, yes?


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>I have NEVER heard it pronounced this way

write me in for three.



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the only time it's pronounced this way is in the definition Mav posted No; in M-W, it's the pronunciation given for:

Main Entry: 4second
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Latin secundare, from secundus second, favorable
1 a : to give support or encouragement to : ASSIST b : to support (a fighting person or group) in combat : bring up reinforcements for
2 a : to support or assist in contention or debate b : to endorse (a motion or a nomination) so that debate or voting may begin
3 /si-'känd/ chiefly British : to release (as a military officer) from a regularly assigned position for temporary duty with another unit or organization
- sec·ond·er noun


Trying the link one more time:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary


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All AHD4 has on it with emPHAsis on the secOND sylLAble is: Chiefly British To transfer (a military officer for example) temporarily.

This is getting curiouser and curiouser!

Edit: Jackie, you're misreading the M-W entry. Only definition 3 is preceded by /si-'känd/

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