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Faldage or ted, could you, please, help me with the questions I posted above, on diagramming and phrase tree structure? Thanks a lot.
Avy:
Thre have been discussions about diagramming here before, but I've never heard of a phrase tree structure, which is why I didn;t answer. Diagramming can make sense of the most complex sentence you can write, and leads one to a better understanding of grammar.
I will look up the phase tree stuff later today and give you my opinion on it. I suspect I know what it is, but until I'm certain I prefer to remain silent. Better to remain silent and make them wonder if I'm a dunce than to open my mouth and remove all doubt.
TEd
TEd
OP Diagramming can make sense of the most complex sentence you can write, and leads one to a better understanding of grammar.
Or either that or get you so confused you'll wonder how you managed to come up with a sentence like that without you had some kind degree in diagramology from some fancy schmancy liberal arts shool all covered over with ivy, one.
Avy,
OK, I did some research but I'm not certain I understand phrase tree structure (PTS) very well. It's about linguistics, something that has never interested me very much.
Here's a paper that gives a pretty good nuts and bolts description of PTS.
http://www.staff.uni-marburg.de/~uffmann/psr-tree.pdf
You have to get past the use of two for to in the first sentence, though. I had to grit my teeth because I always have a tendency to dismiss anything that follows so egregious an error. In this case I gave allowance for the fact that someone may have translated this into English or else the person has English as a secondary language.
Notwithstanding, a few paragraphs down there is a PTS of a relatively simple sentence, with some explanation. It shows the inter-relationships among the words in the sentence. It does NOT reflect or teach grammar. And that's what diagramming or parsing a sentence does. The PTS is concerned with highly technical linguistics, principally the relationships between pairs of words or phrases, while diagramming teaches one how to build a good understandable sentence. Diagramming concerns the entire sentence as a structure. Gosh I hope I said that correctly.
Eleventy seven people may now step forward to correct me on this, which is fine by me since if I have misstated the technical nature of PTS I expect to be questioned.
TEd
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