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#14042 01/09/01 03:32 PM
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How do Brits & colonists spell 'glamorous'?

Humph! Which colonists? The ones in N America or the rest of the erstwhile Empire? As it happens we all spell it the same way but I chortle at the inference that Americans have somehow expunged their colonial origins.


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Phyliss pointed out Humph! Which colonists? The ones in N America or the rest of the erstwhile Empire? As it happens we all spell it the same way but I chortle at the inference that Americans have somehow expunged their colonial origins.

Well said, Phyllis. You do realise, of course that New Zealand is rapidly being "colonised" from Sth Africa. In the province where I live, Hawke's Bay, meeting a GP without a Sth African accent is becoming unusual. A friend who moved from the Republic in 1967 had a braai at her place a couple of years ago, and of the 30 non-family guests, 28 were doctors!


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Humph! Which colonists? The ones in N America or the rest of the erstwhile Empire? As it happens we all spell it the same way but I chortle at the inference that Americans have somehow expunged their colonial origins.

Welcome! Great name for one who is obviously not a philistine! Stick around, and may we all chortle in our glee.

So, Jo aka jmh [arched eyebrow emoticon], and any other fellow philologists out there: have we established there is indeed a "once-only 'ou' " rule among y'all in the UK & in the former colonies who still embrace the current Monarch's English?


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I chortle at the inference that Americans have somehow expunged their colonial origins.

How can you say that we have expunged our colonial origins? Our schools teach history, but there's no reason to keep calling us colonies. I find it rather offensive to call any sovereign nation a colony. Colony implies that a nation is still subject to or closely associated politically with another, superior country. I think most people are aware that we made a little break in that connection about 225 years ago. We fought a vicious war and proved our superiority. (No offense intended.) From what I understand New Zealand and Australia were granted their sovereignty by parliamentary legislation, but that doesn't make them colonies. I see the term colony as a derogatory word when talking about other countries, especially when we "colonies" were the ones saving the UK in the World Wars.


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I'm afraid, jazz, that's it's reactions such as that which ensure the continuance of the practice.


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You do realise, of course that New Zealand is rapidly being "colonised" from Sth Africa.

Oh, you poor dears! One can only imagine the unholy linguistic offspring which will result from that combination. I see you already know "braai" (it still sounds better than "barbie" to my partisan ears).

I am told that in Perth (Australia) the locals have complained that when they send their infants to pre-primary school they come home with Sith Effrican accents!

A friend who moved from the Republic in 1967 had a braai at her place a couple of years ago, and of the 30 non-family guests, 28 were doctors!

Ouch! That really brings home the reality of the brain drain. (Although there used to be a crack that the flood of emigration was a good thing since it raised the average IQ in both countries.)



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Jazz wrote: We fought a vicious war and proved our superiority.

"Nationalism (and patriotism) is an infantile sickness. It is the measles of the human race." Einstein


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Ouch! That really brings home the reality of the brain drain. (Although there used to be a crack that the flood of emigration was a good thing since it raised the average IQ in both countries.)

I've obviously missed some permutation here, Phyllisstein. You must be a yappie! [querying emoticon]

Most of the South African emigrants I meet are either coloured or come from English roots. One of the exceptions is, of course, Irene van Dyk, one of NZ's top netball players.

The quote concerning raising IQs is not at all new. A former NZ prime minister, the late great dictator Rob Muldoon, used it, famously in Australasia, in relation to emigration from Zild to Oz.



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If this word has crossed the pond, I missed it.

Is this the Kiwi name for a sport US'n know by another name, or is it a NZ-specific sport? Seems like it might mean basketball, but there are lots of other sports with nets (tennis, soccer/football, lepidopterificationism).


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My favorite non-specific name for a specific sport is round ball. Near as I can figure it applies to almost anything but American football and rugby* (not to mention the ballless sports, such as ice hockey and curling).

*And, of course, those old standards Gaelic football and footie.


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