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Nemo--
That was nice of you, to apologize to our Max.
Hope your Max is ok!
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P. S. When he was a young man my Uncle Charles hunted birds with bow and arrow as he thought it more sporting than a gun.
When my stepbrother was in his early twenties, he went through a phase of hunting with a crossbow - it was definitely very sporting of him, as he would have killed more game with a camera. The hunting bolts he used were devoid of fletching, maybe that was the problem. 
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Max wrote : When my stepbrother was in his early twenties, he went through a phase of hunting with a crossbow - it was definitely very sporting of him, as he would have killed more game with a camera.
Charles used bow and arrow -- just like Robin Hood -- with fletches -- none of that military hardware for him! And he ate well. He went to camera after the war when he was a member of the First Photographic Squadron in the USAAF. (Army Air Force before we had a separate branch for the Air Force) Hoo-HA![grin emoticon here if we had one!]
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Thank you, Jackie, and yes I have made peace with my Max, and with Max Q. Your concern is appreciated, it's nice to know that my presence here is welcome, that someone actually wants me to stay around. Your encouragement will keep me here.
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what is a fletcher?
A fletcher is someone who makes arrows, or at least affixes the feathers to arrows. There is a connection between fletch (fledge, as in young bird) and feather which I can allege without looking in OED and no doubt someone will and give us the exact details.
As to farriers, I happen to live in the city of the second jewel in the Triple Crown (the Preakness) and can tell you that there are farriers here also, as there are quite a few working horse farms outside Baltimore.
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I am wonder about Hatter/milliner. Is it like taylor and seamstress? different terms for the same skill depending on the sex--gender- of the person employed to do the job?
I think the difference between a hatter and a milliner depends on the sex of the person who is going to wear the creation not on that of the maker, but I could be wrong.
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Thanks Bingley-- i wasn't sure it if was the end product, or the production. The hatter is "mad" from mercury poisoning.. some sort of mercury compound was used to turn beaver skins into stiff top hats.. where as milliners used fabic, felt, feathers, ect.. It was (and to some degree remains) a whole different style of hat making.. I think today, most men's hats have a wool felt base, as do many woman's hats, rather than fur. Unless, of course they are "fur hats".
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My mother had a brief "career" as a milliner shortly after she left school. We kids called her the "Mad Hatter" from the time we were old enough to (a) read AIW, and (b) make the obvious connection.
Once we had scattered, she was known to sign letters off as TMH. One of your family in-jokes.
As an aside, I seem to remember seeing the expression "man-milliner" used to describe a woman who was manipulative, particularly of men. Any connections, anyone?
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In a gross display of thoughtlessness, I will resurrect this thread that died in indignity nearly two months ago, before I was but a wee stranger on the board. I'd like to help clarify some of this milliner/hatter and tailor/seamstress business.  I've never thought of any distinction between a milliner and a hatter, although as mentioned previously by of troy, it may have something to do with the materials employed to affect the end product. But as for tailor vs. seamstress, there is indeed a strong distinction between the two terms, as "seamstress" (or her y-chromosomal counterpart, the "seamster", at least in my world) merely requires a skill-base in sewing. To achieve "tailor"-hood means an understanding of the effective draping of flat fabric, governed by grain, nap, pile, warp, and weft, upon the 3-dimensional human form. That is to say, a seamstress can't necessarily make a tuxedo jacket. I rose through the ranks of the costume shop at the Santa Fe Opera, and believe me, there are more job distinctions than you would have ever thought possible!
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