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I realize that this is radically off-topic, but I am growing desperate. I am seeking a fine-art quality print of J.G. Vibert's painting "The Schism" and, while I can find prints of many others of his oils readily available, not so with this one. Any hints, suggestions, ideas, leads?



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I googled a bit, only found the notecards that you most likely already know about since they come up first on the google list, but didn't find anything promising, first attempts.

Here's the url of the print so others can see it:

http://store1.yimg.com/I/pomegranate_1811_42542453

If you can't find a fine quality print, any chance that you could take one of these notecards and have a professional print maker/copier enlarge it on a high quality art paper?


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Yes, thanks. The notecards are a bit small (5x8) and the original oil painting was much larger (15x21). I didn't think that one could get much of a quality print by asking a Xerographer to enlarge from a postcard, but I'm certainly open to it. No copyright problems; Jehan George died in 1902.





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I would imagine that if one had the right kind of equipment and the monetary motivation to do so, a specialty company copier could gradually increase the size of the 5 x 8, and, after increasing the size each time before printing, use whatever functions necessary to return clarity and definition to each larger image. Probably your favorite copier in town, if not able to do so, could recommend a company that could. They make the process look pretty easy in the movies about the FBI. Wish you luck!


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They make the process look pretty easy in the movies about the FBI.

Like in those shots where they take the picture of an auto with about 6 pixels worth of license plate and they apply sharpening software to get the number?


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Exactly! I don't doubt these things. The world of fiction reels me in wholeheartedly!

Do wake me up, if I'm dreaming.


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Father Steve, I cannot imagine you ever being expelled, sir. FWIW, I tried e-bay, Amazon, and several sites that sell art prints--no luck, sorry. If I think of anything else, I'll give it a shot.


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If I ran the world (or even just the Net), I would have a place (website) where people who were looking for something could go (click) and post that for which they are looking, such that others, who have such things to sell, could find them and connect. Of late, I have been searching for (1) a print of "The Schism", (2) some company like Harry and David that will mail me a box of fresh greengages, and (3) a supplier of ground brown and yellow mustard seed in serious bulk, e.g. ten pound bags, not silly little x-ounce tins. If you think my website proposal is a good idea, say Amen.




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(2) never heard of greengages. I love plums, though.



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thanks! I OneLooked 'em, so I had an idea what they were, but a picture is nice. making me hungry... but it's time for bed here, so perhaps to dream...




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Can't have too many greengages, especially in chartreuse.

Amen.


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Padre,

Whether or not you can have a postcard sized picture enlarged, retaining its quality, depends very much on the quality of the original postcard print. Generally for fine art prints these are pretty good. From 5 x 8 to 15 x 21 isn't that big a stretch, and you might get reasonable results. But you need to have someone (a professional someone) photograph the postcard, photographically enlarge it to the size you want and then digitally touch up the enlargement. It won't be perfect (and I believe the original was missing the burning faggots, of course), but it will be a reasonable representation; perhaps as good as the cheaper sort of art print. Seattle/Tacoma should have someone who can do this kind of work for you.

The picture really says it all, doesn't it?


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Fr Steve:

Where's the painting hanging? Five will get you thirteen that a call to the museum owning the painting will result in a source for a larger print. If you've already tried that please don't take this bet!

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I dinked around the net trying to determine at which museum "The Schism" is hanging ... without success. Anyone know how one tracks down the location of a painting?



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try the information desk at a large library..



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Brilliant! The King County Library System has an on-line reference desk for members ... isn't that space-age and cool? I'll refer the request to the reference librarian and watch my tax dollars at work. Thanks!


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Heh. Nice one, tsuwm, said she, a volunteer at her local library.

Fr Steve, be prepared to learn that your painting is in a private collection.


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Have I ever sung to you my rhapsody to reference librarians? I think they are like philosopher kings in their value to a society. I think that the rule oughta be that reference librarians' salaries are indexed to the average of (1) U.S. Senators, (2) NBA basketball players and (3) rock musicians ... since they are clearly more valuable to society than any of those three categories.

And people who volunteer at the local library get a LOT of time off from Purgatory, at least in my cosmology.




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indexed to the average of (1) U.S. Senators, (2) NBA basketball players and (3) rock musicians

Oh, sure. Send my property taxes through the roof. How bout if U.S. Senators', NBA basketball players' and rock musicians' salaries are indexed to the average of reference librarians' salaries?


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"The Schism" hangs in the Wadsworth Atheneum Museum of Art in Hartford, CT. I have been in contact with the gift shop there and they do not offer a print of this painting. Rats! It was fun trying, anyhow.




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Didja offer to buy the painting, Father Steve?


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Was it your friendly local reference librarian who dug it up for you, Fr Steve?, asked she, who intermittently volunteers at her own friendly local library.


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(1) I neglected to offer to purchase "The Schism" from the museum in Hartford, which is probably good, since such a purchase would likely create a schism between me and my long-suffering bride.

(2) I got the tip on the location of the painting from three independent sources, all within a day of each other, one of which was my local, friendly, helpful and woefully-underpaid reference librarian.



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*sigh* ... What I really want to know is, how much time is my purgatory reduced by?


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At one time, there were some fascinating books written about how long people had to spend in Purgatory for which sorts of sins and offenses and how much time they could get off for various acts of mercy and charity. Honest. The writing (and reading) of such books offers an insight into the popular theology of the times in which they were written (and read).



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I still don't have a print of "The Schism" nor even a hot prospect for finding one. I still don't have a box of fresh greengages to sample nor even a hot prospect for finding one of those. But, in today's post, ten pounds of mustard seed arrived from a supplier in Fort Wayne, Indiana. One out of three ain't bad at all.



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how much time is my purgatory reduced by? ~ AnnaS

Sigh...I have concluded that I am in limbo (def. 2, since I was baptised, but all of 2 a, b, c and d for sure). Incidentally, theologically, how can there be a plural Father Steve? Perhaps that's just for the secular application.

From M-W:

Main Entry: lim·bo
Pronunciation: 'lim-(")bO
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural limbos
Etymology: Middle English, from Medieval Latin, ablative of limbus limbo, from Latin, border
1 often capitalized : an abode of souls that are according to Roman Catholic theology barred from heaven because of not having received Christian baptism
2 a : a place or state of restraint or confinement b : a place or state of neglect or oblivion <proposals kept in limbo> c : an intermediate or transitional place or state d : a state of uncertainty.


Don't think you can win time off from limbo.


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Don't think you can win time off from limbo.

Surely, if you dance the limbo?


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Surely, if you dance the limbo?

Tsk, tsk. How could you stoop to so low a pun, jheem?


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Tsk, tsk. How could you stoop to so low a pun?

dxb: sorry, I slipped up; it must've been that slipping sickness I caught from a tse-tse fly on a trip down the Limpopo river.


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The Limpopo! Always makes me think of the elephant's child.


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The Limpopo! Always makes me think of the elephant's child.

"You mean, of course, the Crocodile."


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Well, the crocodile was *in 'the great grey-green, greasy Limpopo', but I always felt an affinity with the elephant’s child and his 'satiable curtiosity'.

I Keep six honest serving-men:
(They taught me all I knew)
Their names are What and Where and When
And How and Why and Who.



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And the Limpopo is also known as the Crocodile.


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AH! It starts off as the Krokodil. But, as I'm sure you know, but I'll repeat it anyway (pour encourager les autres!), I was referring to Kipling's 'Just So Stories'. The stories are ostensibly for a small child addressed only as 'Best Beloved', and this particular story explains how the elephant got his nose.


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Thanks, dxb. For some reason old Kipling's story gets mixed up in my mind with Professor Twist's story:

The Purist
by Ogden Nash


I give you now Professor Twist,
A conscientious scientist,
Trustees exclaimed, "He never bungles!"
And sent him off to distant jungles.
Camped on a tropic riverside,
One day he missed his loving bride.
She had, the guide informed him later,
Been eaten by an alligator.
Professor Twist could not but smile.
"You mean," he said, "a crocodile."

For RK: http://www.boop.org/jan/justso/elephant.htm

Seems like 'satiable is short for insatiable.



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Seems like 'satiable is short for insatiable.

Yep. The elephant's child was very young and only just beginning to 'speriment with long words.

Anyway, we're even there because I wasn't familiar with the unsentimental Professor Twist!


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